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Old 07-21-2011, 11:07 AM  
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Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:11 AM   #961
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We don't have a lot of depth though and the only positions we would be alright at if starters got hurt would be corner and safety. The Chiefs didn't have a lot of depth last year and it seemed like you guys never had injuries.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:13 AM   #962
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The Chiefs didn't have a lot of depth last year and it seemed like you guys never had injuries.
Do you think that happened by accident?

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Old 07-25-2011, 05:27 AM   #963
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After years, months, weeks and days of haggling over all the details of a new collective bargaining agreement, the NFLPA and NFL finally came to an agreement on terms in the wee hours of Monday morning, FOXSports.com has learned.

The NFLPA player representatives and players still must vote to approve it, but at this point it appears a formality.

Sources within the negotiations told FOXSports.com that under the new agreement, the schedule will be different than originally reported. Under the new terms, team facilities will open as early as Tuesday and training camps will begin Thursday for 10 teams, Friday for another 10 and over the weekend for the remaining 12 teams.

There is still a chance that some unforeseen obstacle somehow can stall the agreement again, although that now seems unlikely.

Players will begin arriving at team facilities Tuesday to vote to recertify the NFLPA as a union. Once they do, they can negotiate terms for the league’s drug programs, player discipline fines, workers comp, etc.

For months there have been reports surfacing that a deal was close to completion, only to be false. Fans have hung on report after report hoping for a new deal and for pro football to return. It appears the NFL will be back without any games except the Hall of Fame Game being canceled.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:45 AM   #964
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:03 AM   #965
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Ten team would report Weds, 10 Thurs, 10 Fri, with Jets and Texans reporting on Sunday. New league year would start Aug. 2 at 4 pm.

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Teams can begin signing UFAs tomorrow at noon. Those contracts would not take effect until Aug 2.

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Teams can begin talking trades this afternoon. Any trade made would not become official until Saturday.

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Teams can sign their free agents this afternoon. Teams can begin talking to UFAs this afternoon. Teams can sign UFAs tomorrow at noon.

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Filed to ESPN: Latest timeline for getting NFL back in business - subject to approval by the NFLPA. Here are the details...
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:17 AM   #966
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The expected NFL free-agent frenzy may begin as soon as Monday afternoon if the NFL Players Association signs off on a timeline being discussed, a source at the highest level told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

According to the projected timeline, the new league year would officially start on Aug. 2 at 4 p.m. ET.

Before that:

• Teams can sign their own free agents and begin talking with other unrestricted free agents Monday afternoon.

• Teams can begin signing unrestricted free agents Tuesday at noon ET but those contracts would not take effect until Aug. 2.

• Teams can begin talking trades Monday afternoon. Any trades would become official on Saturday, July 30.

Players would begin to report to their teams on a staggered scheduled. Another league source said it was unclear what teams would be allowed to do between the opening of camps and Aug. 2, when the league year officially begins.

According to the proposed timeline, 10 teams would report on Wednesday, 10 more on Thursday and 10 additional teams on Friday. The New York Jets and Houston Texans would be the last two teams to report, on Sunday.

The report dates would be back-timed to 14 days before teams play their first preseason games.

The NFL Players Association and the league's owners reached agreement on the remaining points needed in their 10-year labor deal this past weekend, sources from both sides said.

The NFLPA is making plans for a major press conference Monday. The NFLPA executive committee will begin meeting at 11 a.m. ET on Monday.

Following that, a recommendation has to be made by the 32 player representatives, likely via conference call. As of late Saturday night, no time had been set for that vote, but it is expected to occur Monday after the executive committee votes to recommend approval, according to the high-ranking official.

Despite the fact the new agreement will require a majority vote from the players, that part of the deal between the two sides is considered a formality, according to sources.

The executive committee is also expected to vote to recommend recertifying itself as a union, according to the source. A recommendation also has to be made by the 32 player representatives on that count.

Major breakthroughs in Saturday discussions set up the timetable for the resolution to the 130-day lockout.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:20 AM   #967
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So basically a guy can agree to terms, but have to wait a week for the contract?

Seems dumb.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:21 AM   #968
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So basically a guy can agree to terms, but have to wait a week for the contract?

Seems dumb.
Nah im sure it is because players will need to reform there union by then .
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If Denver can sign Mebane and DeAngelo Williams this week we will be the favorites to win the division as long as our LG and C improve.
There won't be one legit analyst, not one, who will pick Denver to win the division.

Only complete dillusional whackjobs would think that shitbag roster is going to win more than 5 games.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:39 AM   #971
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Nah im sure it is because players will need to reform there union by then .
They'll have their union reformed by the end of Tuesday.
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Tons of conflicting reports as to this timeline.
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KnowMo, the hilarious thing is you can just sub Mebane's name with Bannon and Jamal Williams and it's like a carbon copy of your posts March 2010 about it being the BEST OFFSEASON EVA!!!!!!!

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