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Old 03-03-2005, 09:30 AM  
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Anyone listening to 810

It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:44 AM   #91
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Yes, his livelyhood has been on the line. It's not his fault that Lamar Hunt favors him over randomly hiring and firing guys.
I never said anything about how much money Lamar Hunt has. It makes no difference how much he has. The difference is that if it was your money, you'd probably see the situation a little differently.
I wouldn't see it any differently, because I am a fan.

I'm not saying Lamar isn't a fan of his own team, but he isn't as fanatical as most fans.

If I had billions of dollars and a team that was making a profit every year but wasn't seeing the on-field results, I would inject cash into the system and take those shots occasionally. I would take those shots especially if I saw where the problem was on the team and knew that it was fixable.

He doesn't need to turn into Daniel Snyder, but seizing the opportunity when you are so close only makes sense to me.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:44 AM   #92
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Dude ... I don't understand you the Chiefs owe the fans 8 games ... is that the only games you watch. You sound like either a young squirt just starting out being a fan or not a real fan ... I mean you sound like a fan who doesn't care about winning. That is what sports is all about ... winning .... not just how they play the games...
nmt1 is a little whippersnapper who doesnt watch any of the games.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:45 AM   #93
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That's easy to say when it's someone else's money and butt on the line.
If Lamar doesn't like the risk involved with satisfying his customers, he needs to get into a different business. Today's fan expects more than they did 20 years ago, and the price they pay warrants it.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:45 AM   #94
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Free agency is like Christmas for titus and nmt1. This board brings them so much fund and joy from March until the draft.
You honestly have no idea how much Im enjoying this...
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:46 AM   #95
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If Lamar doesn't like the risk involved with satisfying his customers, he needs to get into a different business. Today's fan expects more than they did 20 years ago, and the price they pay warrants it.

That would explain the sold out stadiums today vs. the 13k annually when I was there.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:47 AM   #96
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Free agency is like Christmas for titus and nmt1. This board brings them so much fund and joy from March until the draft.
They're getting PAID for this???
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:47 AM   #97
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Yes I do.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:48 AM   #98
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They just gave the listing of past few years of 2nd round picks. Some scouts need their asses fired.

Trade for McGlockton
Kevin Lockett
Mike Cloud
Bartee
Freeman
Vermiel
Kawika Mitchell
Siavii and Wilson.


I do honestly believe a Chiefsplanet Poll winner could perform as well for the team than the average Chiefs 2nd round pick. It sure makes the Surtain thing look better, given past results.
ChristAlmighty.... That is a really, really,really,really, bad list.

Bartee? In the 2nd?
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #99
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They're getting PAID for this???
dont worry, it's a pittance...they said they didnt have any money.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #100
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If they don't win a SuperBowl, then at least they took there best shot at it. I could live with that much more than KC bringing in and signing 2nd tier free agents so we can go 8-8 again in 2008.

You can believe what you like, but I think after:

Stenerud missing three field goals in the '71 Christmas Day playoff game.

A phantom holding call on Szott and Lowery hitting the cross bar on a game winning field goal.

Joe Montana banging his head against the turf in Buffalo.

Steve Bono completing more passes to the Colts than to his receivers in '95.

Lin Elliot

Elvis Grbac holding his hands over his ear holes on the last drive of the '97 playoff game against Denver.

The TD called back on Gonzalez in the '97 playoff game.

The _efense not forcing a freaking punt against Indy in '03.

...this city and the FANS do DESERVE another Superbowl.



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Old 03-03-2005, 10:50 AM   #101
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That would explain the sold out stadiums today vs. the 13k annually when I was there.
No, winning explains that.

How do explain the waiting list for season tickets in the 90s, but no waiting list the last three years? A few years back a local TV station almost had to buy out unsold tickets to avoid a blackout. Did that ever happen in the 90s?

The fans are seeing ticket price increases every year. If you think we'll continue to fill Arrowhead through eternity as an 8-8 team, you're drinking too much kool-aid.
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dont worry, it's a pittance...they said they didnt have any money.
And yet, the Broncos always find a way to pay their apologists.


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Old 03-03-2005, 10:52 AM   #103
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They're getting PAID for this???
They get a dime for every offseason thread about how the Chiefs don't care about winning. That's the real reason why Lamar can't sign free agents, all of his money has gone to Titus.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:59 AM   #104
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That really depends on how things go. Ive been really, REALLY disgusted with the Chiefs organization as of late.

When it becomes pretty clear that the organization cares more about filling the stands and selling tickets than winning a championship, that leads me to believe that I should probably start cheering for another team if I want to be seeing my favorite team with the Superbowl.

The Chiefs were DEAD F'ING LAST in nearly every single solitary defensive stat last offseason. And what happened? They brought in no reputable new players in an offseason that had some quality free agents, only bargain basement pickups like Lional Dalton.

Clearly, they werent interested in improving the defense, or they wouldnt have signed back all their shitty starters instead of going out and acquiring some real talent.

I dont just watch the Chiefs to see them win 7 or 8 games, just for something to burn 3 hours on a Sunday. Im looking for that Playoff run and Superbowl victory. This team has had the offense to get that done for a few seasons now. And after a 13-3 season, CARRYING that pathetic defense, they still didnt see fit to buy any players to get it any better. Clearly, to me that says that winning a championship isnt high priority. Making a profit is, and that pisses me the F off. The Fans dont pay for their tickets just for something to do. They want to see them win a championship, and the cheap ass front office not doing anything to make that happen is a slap in the face to the fans. How they could just stand pat on defense when it was so bad.....its beyond my comprehension.

We had ONE guy in for an interview, and that was Troy Vincent, and he left without the Chiefs even making him an offer.


You might watch the Chiefs as a hobby, some passing thing where you dont really give a shit if they win a playoff game or not, but there are those of us who want to see the Chiefs win that superbowl that they are capable of if the Front Office would just lay out a little bit of cash to bring some capable defenders in here before this amazing offense is broken up by retirements.

One would think that 13 years without a playoff victory would be motivation for the Front Office to try to get just a bit more done in the Free Agency than what they have done in the past. Clearly, the past approaches have not worked, nor will they work in the future.


The offense probably has 1-2 more years left to perform at this high of a level, and then its going to be rebuilding from offense to defense completely, and the hopes of a superbowl become even more remote.

Anyone with any sense knows that the clock is ticking on this Chiefs team to win a SB. The time is NOW to get that defense up to standard and get this offense the help that it deserves. Its been carrying the team for 3 years now. Time to reward them with a little F'ing help so that they can actually be rewarded for performing so well, and not see all their hard work an awesome performances go down the toilet because the defense couldnt stop a high school JV team.


F the cap in 3 years. Its going to be a major rebuilding process by that time anyway, given the age of our offense. Get the players in NOW, and GO FOR IT. The fans have given the Front office enough profit with no return. Its time that we get at least something that shows the Front office would in fact like to win a SB, and not just make a profit.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:00 AM   #105
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Dude ... I don't understand you the Chiefs owe the fans 8 games ... is that the only games you watch. You sound like either a young squirt just starting out being a fan or not a real fan ... I mean you sound like a fan who doesn't care about winning. That is what sports is all about ... winning .... not just how they play the games...
At least I now know who's the arbiter of true fandom ...

I can sleep better knowing that if someone doesn't call Lamar Hunt cheap, blame Carl for 35 years of failure, or whine about ticket prices, he or she is not a real fan. I mean, there's no way that person could care about the team, is there?

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