Gunther planning to use 3-4 defense in likely passing downs - Page 7

beer bacon · 06-23-2005, 02:06 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...de-scoop_x.htm

Chiefs defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham is the latest coach planning the 3-4 scheme as a sub package. Cunningham plans to implement the 3-4 in likely passing downs to maximize Kansas City's improved defensive speed.

I like the sound of this. Who do you think would normally be out there on defense in these situations?

Mr. Laz · 06-23-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I totally forgot about Browning. Actually, we could have Browning and Hicks in a 3-4. That might not be too bad. Then who would be the NT? We don't have that many 2-gap players. Dalton is the only 2-gap player. That's what Htismaqe was saying earlier. So if we ran a 3-4, what do you think of having Browning, Dalton, and Hicks as our defensive lineman?

Hicks might be a problem ... he struggled with outside containment in a 4-3 last year.

i don't know that he has the strength to hold in a 3-4

but your right... that would be the best lineup at the moment

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I totally forgot about Browning. Actually, we could have Browning and Hicks in a 3-4. That might not be too bad. Then who would be the NT? We don't have that many 2-gap players. Dalton is the only 2-gap player. That's what Htismaqe was saying earlier. So if we ran a 3-4, what do you think of having Browning, Dalton, and Hicks as our defensive lineman?

My only problem with that is that Dalton is the only one that really seemed to fit in Gunther's scheme last year.

LiL stumppy · 06-23-2005, 11:40 AM

I like this.I would want Fujita as the extra LB,with his speed and experiance.

BigChiefFan · 06-23-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

I like this.I would want Fujita as the extra LB,with his speed and experiance.

Not me. I prefer Fox over Fujita.

Mitchell, Bell, DJ, and Fox.

HC_Chief · 06-23-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Not me. I prefer Fox over Fujita.

Why? Fox has never shown anything.

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Anybody can find question marks about any player if they dig hard enough. Just look at Derrick Johnson. Right or wrong, I believe he could become a solid nose tackle.

Well, you were countering the "he's not a 2-gap DT" by bringing up his strength. If, in fact, they were right about him being weak in the legs, then he has TWO strikes against him instead of 1 when it comes to playing the NT in a 3-4.

Ebolapox · 06-23-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476
DE Browning/ scanlon
DT Junior/ scanlon
DE Allen/ scanlon

OLB Fox/Stills
ILB Bell/Scanlon
ILB Mitchell/Scanlon
OLB Johnson/Fujita

cb scanlon
cb scanlon
fs scanlon
ss scanlon

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Here, I fixed it.

no, *I* fixed it

-EB-

TRing · 06-23-2005, 11:46 AM

hey guys Gunther called and he wants his job back....

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Actually, there was some concern the Siavii lacked lower-body strength coming out of college...

That’s not all that hard to cure.
Junior, meet Mr. Squat Rack. You two are gonna do a LOT of work together.

RedThat · 06-23-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Not me. I prefer Fox over Fujita.

Mitchell, Bell, DJ, and Fox.

Agreed. Fujita couldn't cover over the TE worth a damn last year. At least by throwing Fox in there, we got somebody who is unproven, but, has good coverage ability.

BigChiefFan · 06-23-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Why? Fox has never shown anything.

Fox is signed long term. Fujita is on a one-year tender and still sitting out of practice.

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Why? Fox has never shown anything.

And Fujita has shown that he can play OK on a very bad defense. I go for the potential in Fox over what we've seen Fujita bring to the table.

BigChiefFan · 06-23-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Well, you were countering the "he's not a 2-gap DT" by bringing up his strength. If, in fact, they were right about him being weak in the legs, then he has TWO strikes against him instead of 1 when it comes to playing the NT in a 3-4.

In YOUR opinion he has two strikes against him.
IMO, he could become a solid NT.

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TRing

hey guys Gunther called and he wants his job back....

Yea I know, but what else is a Football BB for?

RedThat · 06-23-2005, 11:52 AM

I find this whole thing about Keyaron Fox a little mind-boggling. Last year, he didn't play at all. Now, everybody including the coaches are talking like the kid is going to be a starter, and at the very least playing this year. So, why wasn't he playing last year? Why would the Chiefs elect to use Quinton Caver over his a**? I don't get it.

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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I find this whole thing about Keyaron Fox a little mind-boggling. Last year, he didn't play at all. Now, everybody including the coaches are talking like the kid is going to be a starter, and at the very least playing this year. So, why wasn't he playing last year? Why would the Chiefs elect to use Quinton Caver over his a**? I don't get it.
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