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I fear the Silver and Black 4 3.51%
I can't wait to sweep 'em 110 96.49%
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:52 PM  
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Is anyone seriously scared of the Raiders?
Yes, they got some nice shiny toys for the offense.

But Norv Turner is still their head coach and Chiefs fans know how well keeping the same players and changing the scheme works for fixing a defense.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:01 AM   #91
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Actually, by my count it's a 22-8 ratio since 1990.

Add that to a 23-34-2 record from 1960 through 1989, and we end up with the Chiefs being 45-42-2 against the Raid ers. Clearly, the Chiefs are the better team.
That's all there is to it? 3 wins better after 89 games and so "clearly better?" That's good to know! It doesn't matter if your team wins the division title for the next 10 years, or has more playoff wins or Super Bowl wins than than mine. All my team has to do is get three head-to-head wins ahead of your team and they will be "clearly better." Simple.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:08 AM   #92
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Tom Schmidt: Who would be your selection between these three quarterbacks: Marc Bulger, Kerry Collins or Michael Vick?

G.G.: Collins has a chance to be one of the top five quarterbacks in Fantasy Football this season and is the best option. The veteran has a list of weapons that include LaMont Jordan, Randy Moss, Jerry Porter and Ronald Curry at his disposal, and the Raiders will throw the ball downfield a ton.

Furthermore, the defenseless AFC West will offer little resistance to what has a chance to rival the Colts as the best offense in the league. His value falls a bit in leagues that penalize points for interceptions, but overall it's hard to pass on Collins.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:08 AM   #93
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All I can say is we better beat the Raider if we are going to go anywhere at all. I will be on the field for the game here in Oakland.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:09 AM   #94
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That's all there is to it? 3 wins better after 89 games and so "clearly better?" That's good to know! It doesn't matter if your team wins the division title for the next 10 years, or has more playoff wins or Super Bowl wins than than mine. All my team has to do is get three head-to-head wins ahead of your team and they will be "clearly better." Simple.

Yeah. You got it.

My criteria may change in the future, though.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:39 PM   #95
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Fear? Hell no.

The way you attack the Raider's offense is to rush the hell out of Collins. Mr. Happy Feet will start spraying the ball all over the field as he has every other year of his career. If we sit back and play conservatively, we will get carved up.

Our offense should dominate their defense.
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I only fear the The Raiders may get some on our stadium and I'm not sure if we can clean it off.
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How did eye patch get so many good rep points in 176 posts? Do we have some closet raider fans lurking around here? I think this needs a full investigation followed by strict banishment and firing squad for anyone giving good rep to raiders. Whats next Chiefs and Bronco fans holding hands and taking long walks together. Osama marrying one of the Bush twins and being George's son in law. Someone restore order in this world.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:31 PM   #98
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You better stick to choke football... because you don't know sh*t about Raider football.

To think that Tyler Brayton is a player who's going to be helped by the new scheme proves one of three things... A: you don't watch Raider football... B: you don't know squat… or C: all of the above.. which would be more accurate.

Tyler couldn’t cover the ground he was responsible for with a 3/4 alignment… how in the hell is he gonna do well in a 4/3 since he will have more ground to cover.

He is a DE that is “trying” to being converted to a OLB. If I were the chokes I would dump halfback tosses his way and watch him grab some air. He’s a great kid with a big heart and a great motor but IMO he is lost out there.

and if you think that Warrnen Sapp will not be helped by moving back to a position that he has played for years and as a pro bowl player... and also having big Ted Washington playing the middle who always sucks up two o-lineman… then I understand why many knowledgeable football fans usually ignore your tripe.

Whoa...Brayton's not being moved back to end? The Raiders are even more stupid than I had initially believed...

Sapp might be helped, but not enough to make him a force. He sucks.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:33 PM   #99
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If you believe history repeats itself then woe to Collins and Oakland by extension. It also means your team will keep breaking your collective hearts if ever they reach the playoffs again.
Collins is still the same QB he has ever been.

The Chiefs team is pretty different. They added key parts. They will improve.

Did Collins get a brain transplant? If so, he will improve.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:13 PM   #100
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They are going to have a killer offense and no defense. We should know as well as anyone that that can lead to victory or loss. I hope we can sweep them but I would certainly not bet on it.
That is what I have been trying to remind all my Raider friends. hehe.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:22 PM   #101
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You're a complete tool. What are you going to say when the Chiefs trash the Raiders this year and vindicate me?

ANYONE that plays the "football knowledge" card is only playing it because they don't have a logical response.
Cool it Chiefie. I hope you know more about football than you do baseball.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:25 PM   #102
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Seriously, when someone comes into the thread and IMMEDIATELY disrespects someone else instead of debating or responding to their opinion....that's just total bush league.
Lighten up dude, this is a BB. You take it way too seriously.
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If we had the KC Chiefs defense, I'd be scared of Oakland.
Dude, good news. I hear we might be able to improve our running backs. There was this dude that got cut the other day, a 3rd rounder.
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You probably didn't think our offense was going to get better either.
He definitely thinks that Denver has the best running backs in the league.
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