Adam Schefter says we're the favorite for Donnie Edwards - Page 7

Zouk · 03-07-2007, 06:23 PM

On NFL Total Access tonight.

Says it's likely to be a 2 year deal, and that the Packers are our biggest competition for him.

RedThat · 03-08-2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

every penny spent on players over 28 is wasted....we aren't a player away from anything but another mediocre midround draft pick

play Croyle, or Huard, and lose and get a top pick and then get better and then maybe we could sign some crusty trash from a team smart enough to let that crusty trash walk....

OR...sign Edwards and finish 8-8 just because that's the way Carl likes it, good and ****ing mediocre forever...look at what we gained from Bell/Surtain/Law/Knight...that's right - ZIP ****ING NADDA NOTHING ****ING NEIN

i hate this ****ing team more than I hate redrum's mom begging for another facial....

I think you're overreacting a little bit. Who says the Chiefs are a player away from anything? This team is active, and trying to get better. At least give them some credit? Credit for trying at least. Geez. Last time I checked we signed a LT, a MLB, and are still looking at other players to help improve this team. Oh yeah and we still have the draft too. Its not like the Chiefs are sitting on their butts and neglecting the areas of need to help improve their football team.

I can't believe the audicity of some fans, you really want to see this team tank it, just become completely crap, just to get a good draft pick? Gimme a break. That is ridiculous. This is a team that made the playoffs last year. It's not like they are Detroit, or some other crappy team.

Just because you sign a veteran player it doesnt necessarily mean it is a waste of money. We've signed lots of guys 30 years old or more. Some were good, some not. But i think that's the nature of this business. You gain or lose. That's FA.

Law and Surtain aren't wastes. Bell and Knight on the other hand, are underachievers, and weren't worth the signings. See what I mean, you win or lose. Give or take.

And besides that, Donnie Edwards is not a player that is gonna contribute to helping us finish 8-8. If anything, he'll make us better. He is a good football player. A consistent football player, who makes plays, and manages to get over 100 tackles every year, and stays healthy too, EVERY SINGLE YEAR. I'll take that on my team thank you. He is WAY better than Bell. Heck, Id rather see him lineup at OLB than Bell? Wouldn't you?

He's got all the tools, athleticism, skills, and intangibles to play in a cover 2 scheme.

Sometimes age can be overlooked. But he was still an effective LB last year, and I anticipate he will be again this year. Old or not, he is still showing he can play, and be productive year in or year out. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of getting younger too, but not entirely young like some fans make it seem like we should do. A football team ALWAYS needs some veterans. Actually, I think you need a good mix of both veteran leadership and youth. Have you noticed that teams that win championships have their share of veteran leadership, and youth?

Signing a guy like Donnie Edwards won't hurt it'll only add another proven veteran on this team.

kcxiv · 03-08-2007, 04:52 AM

Knight was well worth the signing. Bell on the other hand has been worthless.

ChiefFan31 · 03-08-2007, 05:08 AM

Yes, CP used to sell very well that we were a player or two away. Even the casual fan knows that is not the case now, no matter what CP says or his minions write.

I have long since let go of any disappointment that we did not resign Donnie Edwards. Upon first thought of us maybe resigning him early in the offseason, I did not like it as we need to get younger and rebuild.

However, I think it is pretty much universally known that as long as Carl Peterson is the GM, we are not going to go through back to back 4-12 seasons and do a full rebuild and draft a solid core of players that will eventually gives us a legitimate shot at a SB Title.

Given where we are at now, I am okay with resigning Donnie Edwards to a two year contract. He would do a good job at playing the outside LB spot putting us in the spot to wave goodbye to Kendrell Bell. That would give us a couple of good years to look to other positions of need in the draft, and we could eventually draft and groom a replacement as previously posted in this thread.

Why would anyone think we would go to a 3-4? Herm is a 4-3 Cover 2 guy. He would be tickled pink if we were just like the 99 Bucs and lost in the conference championship game 11-6. Once we rebuild a solid defense, he just might have Shaun King on speed dial and bring him out of retirement. Who knows.

KC56DJ · 03-08-2007, 09:50 AM

I think if we had johnson, harris, and edwards we would have 3 very athletic talented backers, so i wouldnt complain one bit

**the Talking Can** · 03-08-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I can't believe the audicity of some fans, you really want to see this team tank it, just become completely crap, just to get a good draft pick? .

no, I want us to sign more aging vets and finish 9-7 again and not win a playoff game for another 30 years....that makes me a true fan

**The Bad Guy** · 03-08-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

no, I want us to sign more aging vets and finish 9-7 again and not win a playoff game for another 30 years....that makes me a true fan

Signing one vet this offseason, who played at a pretty damn high level last year, doesn't mean we finish 9-7. You have to get good football players. The Chiefs defense next year will have hopefully 7 starters all 28 or younger.

We got jack shit production out of Bell. Fox has never shown anything when he has been in. We have 2 LBs that are 28 and younger starting.

I don't see the downside to signing Edwards when our depth at LB is pure shit.

htismaqe · 03-08-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Signing one vet this offseason, who played at a pretty damn high level last year, doesn't mean we finish 9-7. You have to get good football players. The Chiefs defense next year will have hopefully 7 starters all 28 or younger.

We got jack shit production out of Bell. Fox has never shown anything when he has been in. We have 2 LBs that are 28 and younger starting.

I don't see the downside to signing Edwards when our depth at LB is pure shit.

You mean you wouldn't rather have a 7th-round draft pick starting at OLB, just because he's younger?

Bootlegged · 03-08-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Signing one vet this offseason, who played at a pretty damn high level last year, doesn't mean we finish 9-7. You have to get good football players. The Chiefs defense next year will have hopefully 7 starters all 28 or younger.

We got jack shit production out of Bell. Fox has never shown anything when he has been in. We have 2 LBs that are 28 and younger starting.

I don't see the downside to signing Edwards when our depth at LB is pure shit.

Agreed.

Sure-Oz · 03-08-2007, 10:10 AM

Edwards game hasn't slowed down, he has always made some plays and thats what we need is more playmakers on defense. He is a pretty athletic LB and will make plays, i would be for signing him and helpin our LB depth.

**the Talking Can** · 03-08-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You mean you wouldn't rather have a 7th-round draft pick starting at OLB, just because he's younger?

if it means the difference between the 5th pick and the 15th pick in the draft next year, then yes...vet LBs are always available in FA, and we have no need for one until we're serious about contending...otherwise we're just serious about 9-7....

I'd rather give the playing time to youngster who might actually be here when we're done rebuilding, save the money for FA next year, and get a higher draft pick to boot....

or sign more old Vets, hell why not...that strategy has a proven track record of success in KC....

whatever, I just want to be a true fan

InChiefsHeaven · 03-08-2007, 10:26 AM

I just don't think that Kawika would be a bad fit on the outside. He's young and athletic. I have'nt read the whole thread, but I'm guessing I'm the only one that doesn't want to throw him under the bus...

Chiefnj · 03-08-2007, 10:28 AM

Since I don't think the offense and the DL are going to rise to a level where the Chiefs can seriously compete for the Super Bowl. That means a player like DE would be wasted. When the Chiefs would be ready to make a run Edwards will be on a major decline. So, what's the point in signing him unless you want to try to maintain the status quo?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-08-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if it means the difference between the 5th pick and the 15th pick in the draft next year, then yes...vet LBs are always available in FA, and we have no need for one until we're serious about contending...otherwise we're just serious about 9-7....

I'd rather give the playing time to youngster who might actually be here when we're done rebuilding, save the money for FA next year, and get a higher draft pick to boot....

or sign more old Vets, hell why not...that strategy has a proven track record of success in KC....

whatever, I just want to be a true fan

This argument has so many holes, I don't even know where to start.

You have no idea whether we would get a top 5 or top 15 draft pick regardless if we started Edwards or a rookie 7th rounder.

If we did draft that high, you have no idea what would become of that said player. The last time we picked near 5, we have a fat, unmotivated pile of garbage taking up 2nd place on our non-existent DT depth chart.

I don't know how this team will shape up come September, but I'm happy about the additions thusfar, and the subtractions that came with the additions. Adding Donnie, who has played better the last 2 years than I have ever seen him, is not an indication that this team doesn't want to get younger.

It's an indication that if you have a lot of youth around you (Allen, Hali, DJ, Nap, Page, Pollard) then you need some vets to help lead the way. I think the biggest problem last year was Kawika tried to be a leader, and not one person on defense gave a rat's ass about what he was saying.

That changes with someone like Donnie.

htismaqe · 03-08-2007, 11:17 AM

I've seen several mocks in the last few days that have Okoye and/or Brown falling into the 18 range.

Signing Donnie Edwards plugs a gap, allowing the team the ability to trade up if needed to get a bonafide stud player.

Logical · 03-08-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Highly debatable.

Your football knowledge?

03-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	Adam Schefter says we're the favorite for Donnie Edwards On NFL Total Access tonight. Says it's likely to be a 2 year deal, and that the Packers are our biggest competition for him.
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03-08-2007, 04:52 AM	#92
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03-08-2007, 05:08 AM	#93
ChiefFan31 Keeping a close eye Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $10004900	Yes, CP used to sell very well that we were a player or two away. Even the casual fan knows that is not the case now, no matter what CP says or his minions write. I have long since let go of any disappointment that we did not resign Donnie Edwards. Upon first thought of us maybe resigning him early in the offseason, I did not like it as we need to get younger and rebuild. However, I think it is pretty much universally known that as long as Carl Peterson is the GM, we are not going to go through back to back 4-12 seasons and do a full rebuild and draft a solid core of players that will eventually gives us a legitimate shot at a SB Title. Given where we are at now, I am okay with resigning Donnie Edwards to a two year contract. He would do a good job at playing the outside LB spot putting us in the spot to wave goodbye to Kendrell Bell. That would give us a couple of good years to look to other positions of need in the draft, and we could eventually draft and groom a replacement as previously posted in this thread. Why would anyone think we would go to a 3-4? Herm is a 4-3 Cover 2 guy. He would be tickled pink if we were just like the 99 Bucs and lost in the conference championship game 11-6. Once we rebuild a solid defense, he just might have Shaun King on speed dial and bring him out of retirement. Who knows.
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03-08-2007, 09:50 AM	#94
KC56DJ Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $10004900	I think if we had johnson, harris, and edwards we would have 3 very athletic talented backers, so i wouldnt complain one bit
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03-08-2007, 10:26 AM	#101
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $715437	I just don't think that Kawika would be a bad fit on the outside. He's young and athletic. I have'nt read the whole thread, but I'm guessing I'm the only one that doesn't want to throw him under the bus... __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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03-08-2007, 10:28 AM	#102
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Since I don't think the offense and the DL are going to rise to a level where the Chiefs can seriously compete for the Super Bowl. That means a player like DE would be wasted. When the Chiefs would be ready to make a run Edwards will be on a major decline. So, what's the point in signing him unless you want to try to maintain the status quo? __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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03-08-2007, 11:17 AM	#104
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	I've seen several mocks in the last few days that have Okoye and/or Brown falling into the 18 range. Signing Donnie Edwards plugs a gap, allowing the team the ability to trade up if needed to get a bonafide stud player.
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