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Old 10-28-2010, 08:57 AM  
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NFL.com breaks down Moeaki's great blocking
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:22 PM   #91
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I like Spiller, but Spiller at 5 would have made zero sense.
But McCluster makes tons of sense.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:23 PM   #92
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I really liked it, yes. I didn't like the 2010 draft, yes. I don't know why that disqualifies me from anything?

I'm a foundational guy. I like drafting for foundation. Blue chips spent on blue chip positions.

The 2009 draft was all about that. The 2010 draft was not.
The 2009 draft was a gigantic FAIL, and 3-4 DE isn't foundation.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:25 PM   #93
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I really liked it, yes. I didn't like the 2010 draft, yes. I don't know why that disqualifies me from anything?

I'm a foundational guy. I like drafting for foundation. Blue chips spent on blue chip positions.

The 2009 draft was all about that. The 2010 draft was not.
haha

RB is not a blue chip position. ESPECIALLY when you already have Charles and Jones.

In case you missed it, we have the #1 running attack in the NFL and we have a top 10 rush defense WITHOUT TYSON JACKSON and CJ SPILLER.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #94
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But McCluster makes tons of sense.
at 36?

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The 2009 draft was a gigantic FAIL, and 3-4 DE isn't foundation.
I completely disagree about 3-4 DE not being foundation.

The 3-4 DE has to be one of the most versatile players on the defense, with the exception perhaps only of the OLB, who has to be a passrusher but also display adequate coverage skills.

The 3-4 DE is someone who must be stout enough at the point of attack to be able to hold up blockers like a DT, but be able to get decent, consistent penetration on passing downs. Get a DE that's too one-sided, and you end up either a player you can run straight at because he's too much of a passrusher (Gilberry) or a player you can rotate your pocket towards because he puts no pressure on your QB (Shaun Smith).

Smith and Gilberry are fine players in certain situations. But Dorsey is the only player on this team that can serve as a true 3-4 DE. So we have to play mix-and-match the rest of the time because TJ isn't getting there fast enough.

Take our defense, but replace the other DE position with Campbell or Dockett from Arizona and we're a true Top 10 defense.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:29 PM   #96
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RB is not a blue chip position. ESPECIALLY when you already have Charles and Jones.

In case you missed it, we have the #1 running attack in the NFL and we have a top 10 rush defense WITHOUT TYSON JACKSON and CJ SPILLER.
CJ Spiller isn't a pure running back, though. He's Reggie Bush.

He can run routes extremely well, and has amazing hands.

And, might I add, he's not 170 pounds.
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at 36?

**** YES

Are you kidding around or being serious?
Serious. McCluster is a gadget player. His size makes it such that spent what was virtually a 1st round pick on a player that can only be a contributor, but not the fulcrum, of our success.
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But McCluster makes tons of sense.
Yes, at 36, he made more sense than Spiller at 5.

Berry is a potential generational player. We didn't just take "a safety" at 5. And he coincidentally happened to fit a need position in the starting lineup. Which means for once we actually had the stars align and took the best player available at a position of need, and a guy that 99% of the football world expects to be an all pro for years.
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I completely disagree about 3-4 DE not being foundation.
It's important, but it damn sure isn't top 5 draft pick important. That draft was a giant piece of shit.
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I completely disagree about 3-4 DE not being foundation.

The 3-4 DE has to be one of the most versatile players on the defense, with the exception perhaps only of the OLB, who has to be a passrusher but also display adequate coverage skills.

The 3-4 DE is someone who must be stout enough at the point of attack to be able to hold up blockers like a DT, but be able to get decent, consistent penetration on passing downs. Get a DE that's too one-sided, and you end up either a player you can run straight at because he's too much of a passrusher (Gilberry) or a player you can rotate your pocket towards because he puts no pressure on your QB (Shaun Smith).

Smith and Gilberry are fine players in certain situations. But Dorsey is the only player on this team that can serve as a true 3-4 DE. So we have to play mix-and-match the rest of the time because TJ isn't getting there fast enough.

Take our defense, but replace the other DE position with Campbell or Dockett from Arizona and we're a true Top 10 defense.
Dude, TJ hasnt even played a whole game worth of combined time yet this year. Our DEs are FAR from a weakness this year...in fact we are set at the position...enough so that we sent Alex Magee for picks because we didnt have a spot for him once Jackson returned...


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Yes, at 36, he made more sense than Spiller at 5.

Berry is a potential generational player. We didn't just take "a safety" at 5. And he coincidentally happened to fit a need position in the starting lineup. Which means for once we actually had the stars align and took the best player available at a position of need, and a guy that 99% of the football world expects to be an all pro for years.
I'm not arguing with the Berry pick.

I still would have taken him over Spiller. I'm just arguing that Spiller was worth the #5 overall.
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It's important, but it damn sure isn't top 5 draft pick important. That draft was a giant piece of shit.
This isn't thread releated but IMO Brock and Hamas should trade avatars. It would totally change the way one reads their posts.


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Serious. McCluster is a gadget player. His size makes it such that spent what was virtually a 1st round pick on a player that can only be a contributor, but not the fulcrum, of our success.
Dude, watch NFLN today...you will see how DMC already effects entire defenses 6 games into this season.

The same way Spiller would be for us.

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He has already shown that he has game breaking ability as a returner as well, same as Spiller.
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I'm not arguing with the Berry pick.

I still would have taken him over Spiller. I'm just arguing that Spiller was worth the #5 overall.
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