Chiefs You Aren't What You Are - Page 7

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic

Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well.

Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three ****ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash.

The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not.
Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch.

Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped.

Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today.

Watching this team get owned by mother****ing Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose.

Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW.

That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated.

Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL

Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored.

This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally ****ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.

Marcellus · 11-14-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs should have taken Misi before McCluster, but who cares now?

And Arenas has been unspectacular as a returner.

Arenas appear to be better at corner than Carr at this point.

T-post Tom · 11-14-2010, 10:05 PM

So how about that block Pope put on the kicker at the end of the first half? He's having a great year, that Pope.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Arenas appear to be better at corner than Carr at this point.

Let's see Arenas on a island with shit safeties behind him before coming to that conclusion.

Bewbies · 11-14-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Excuse me?

Page most certainly would have been a piece of the puzzle. He was drafted in 2006, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't be part of the future.

Furthermore, you don't even know what the draft pick will bring, so why would you risk that when you have a proven NFL player on the roster?

****ing dumb.

Berry and Lewis are the future. Page would have been riding pine unless one of them is hurt.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

No problem

I just don't understand where Page fits into this discussion since Lewis and McGraw are our FS's..

All I said was that Pioli had better get good value for trading Page because he certainly would have been an upgrade over Washington and Price this year.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-14-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs should have taken Misi before McCluster, but who cares now?

And Arenas has been unspectacular as a returner.

Well, I think McCluster is a pretty important piece, but based on the way Misi is playing, that's a fair statement to make.

Arenas has been unspectacular on special teams, but he's been a pleasant surprise in coverage. I'd rather him play better as a nickel back than as a returner. But yeah, it would be nice to see him do better on the returns, but I also think our special teams is getting worse every week.

Bewbies · 11-14-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I said was that Pioli had better get good value for trading Page because he certainly would have been an upgrade over Washington and Price this year.

I agree with this. I wouldn't have cut page, but for a decent pick I'm all for it.

Marcellus · 11-14-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I said was that Pioli had better get good value for trading Page because he certainly would have been an upgrade over Washington and Price this year.

So Pioli was supposed to know that Lewis and McGraw were going to get hurt at the same time? Keep a guy around who doesn't want to be there in case of emergency? No.

Talk all the shit you want on McGraw but he is better then Washington and Price.

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I said was that Pioli had better get good value for trading Page because he certainly would have been an upgrade over Washington and Price this year.

I hope so too. IIRC it was a conditional pick and right now it probably won't be much since he isn't playing.

And just to point out we carry 5 safeties and 3 of them are hurt and Page was hurt last year as well.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So Pioli was supposed to know that Lewis and McGraw were going to get hurt at the same time? Keep a guy around who doesn't want to be there in case of emergency? No.

Talk all the shit you want on McGraw but he is better then Washington and Price.

JFC, some of you people will make ANY excuse for Pioli, a man that's paid $5 million per year to make the right decisions.

And YES, this roster would be better with Page than either Washington or Price.

DUH.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Berry and Lewis are the future. Page would have been riding pine unless one of them is hurt.

No shit?

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC, some of you people will make ANY excuse for Pioli, a man that's paid $5 million per year to make the right decisions.

And YES, this roster would be better with Page than either Washington or Price.

DUH.

Is Pioli supposed to go over to Page's house, hold a gun to his head and force him to sign his tender?

The guy didn't want to be here not much anyone can do about that.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Is Pioli supposed to go over to Page's house, hold a gun to his head and force him to sign his tender?

The guy didn't want to be here not much anyone can do about that.

This is ****ing dumb.

Why didn't he want to "be here"?

Furthermore, he DID sign his tender, didn't he?

Look no further than AJ Smith or even Belichick himself for how to deal with players that don't want to sign their tenders.

**Buehler445** · 11-14-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Let's see Arenas on a island with shit safeties behind him before coming to that conclusion.

This. The routes that Carr covers are vastly different than what Arenas covers.

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is ****ing dumb.

Why didn't he want to "be here"?

Furthermore, he DID sign his tender, didn't he?

Look no further than AJ Smith or even Belichick himself for how to deal with players that don't want to sign their tenders.

It isn't dumb considering he asked to be traded twice, was out all last year on IR, and signed his tender 1 week before training camp to avoid paying all the fines he would have incurred. The only reason it didn't happen sooner was the Chiefs didn't want to start a predence by giving in to whiny players.

11-14-2010, 08:46 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	You Aren't What You Are Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well. Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three **ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash. The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not. Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch. Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped. Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today. Watching this team get owned by mothering Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose. Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid motherer. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW. That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated. Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored. This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally **ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.
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