Barry Richardson

[TheGuardian]

Dude sucks. He was the main reason the offense went into the toilet today. Couldn't run block, couldn't pass block. Got his ass whipped 1 on 1 all day.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by DRU

Could be true but that's not the way I saw it. You really think they'd rather have O'Cal in there instead of Richardson on that 4th down play?

Also, we all hear Haley say all the time those 4th down plays aren't spontaneous. They must have been in 4 down mode which means they would have known who they wanted in when they wanted them in, which further confirms (in my mind) that they wanted him in there on that 4th down play because the coach sprinted all the way down the field to try and get him in there but the rest of the team had already given up on him at that point and ran the play without him.

As I mentioned before, I think a timeout would have been the best thing to do in that situation. We clearly were not in our best mind-set when we ran that play on a number of fronts.

I don't think that if it were a "we dint have time to get him in" scenario, that it'd be the ST coach running after him.

[l0rd0s3]

Keep arguing about the same things over and over - whats the point?

He got yanked - he lost his cool.

Until you know the guy or know his coach there is no point in arguing whether pulling him out for the play was the right thing to do. No worries.

Is it always like this over here?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

This is his first year starting. I hope they don't give up on him because of this.

He's better than O'FAIL, but DAMN I can sure see the point of yanking his ass when the penalties are piling up. These guys have GOT to ****ing learn one way or another. Penalties happen all the time, but you can NOT be bone-heading them and expect to be a consistent winner.

And that ****ing pissy-fit just PROVED how right the call was.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No more "significant" than Moeaki's penalty, yet he stayed on the field.



I completely disagree.

He was pulled against Denver for O'Failagain because he "supposedly" missed a block. It's ****ing bullshit.

If they're going to pull a guy each time he makes a mistake, then Cassel shouldn't even be the QB. It's more Double Standard bullshit at work.

Losing your cool in that situation helps how exactly? Explain it to me. Here's a clue. It doesn't. You ever hear guys talking trash and getting in guys heads? What do you think they act like? Like that. Idiotic. That is the wrong kind of emotion. PEriod.

Maybe because this is his third year. He was converted from left tackle (where he started for 40 games at Clemson). He's started every game this season for the first time and deserves to be cut a little slack when he makes mistakes.

Oh, and the Chiefs have the number one rushing unit and a Top 5 offense during that time.

Are those enough reasons?

I haven't said one thing about the false start (or the two or three he had). It was the WHOLE game today, where he got beat in both the run and pass game by guys that are scrubs. The play where the guy got across his face to cause McCluster to fumble he made a second rate player look like Reggie White in his prime. That shit was beyond atrocious.

[DRU]

Originally Posted by Sully

I don't think that if it were a "we dint have time to get him in" scenario, that it'd be the ST coach running after him.

So you do think that was the one time this year Haley was NOT in 4 down mode but decided on a whim to go for it? He's been very firm on his stance that he doesn't do that, and has even gone against his gut because he didn't want to change the plan and go on a whim.

That doesn't really seem like the time he'd have chosen to contradict himself.

[FloridaMan88]

Making physical contact with a coach should have automatically sent his ass to the locker room.

Perhaps Richardson should have displayed the same aggressiveness against Haggan that he displayed pushing around an old skinny coach on the sideline.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by DRU

So you do think that was the one time this year Haley was NOT in 4 down mode but decided on a whim to go for it? He's been very firm on his stance that he doesn't do that, and has even gone against his gut because he didn't want to change the plan and go on a whim.

That doesn't really seem like the time he'd have chosen to contradict himself.

I think Richardson thought it was going to be a FG.

[l0rd0s3]

Haley said in post game that they were in 4 down mode.

Richardson was running onto the field when the coach came after him to pull him back. Not sure where the "coach running to get him" came from - that would have had to been after the play if I'm remembering correctly.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by l0rd0s3

Haley said in post game that they were in 4 down mode.

Richardson was running onto the field when the coach came after him to pull him back. Not sure where the "coach running to get him" came from - that would have had to been after the play if I'm remembering correctly.

The TV didnt show a coach running to him prior to him running on the field, but showed Hoffman pulling him off after he was running out.

[DRU]

Originally Posted by l0rd0s3

Haley said in post game that they were in 4 down mode.

Richardson was running onto the field when the coach came after him to pull him back. Not sure where the "coach running to get him" came from - that would have had to been after the play if I'm remembering correctly.

You apparently weren't at the game. I just re-watched it on the DVR and they missed a LOT of that action.

The coach (I really don't know which one) came running all the way down to field, sprinting, to try and get Richardson onto the field. He got to him and tapped him on the shoulder (he was completely at the end all by himself) and then Richardson started to run onto the field only to see, oh shit, nevermind I can't now.

If Haley confirmed they were in 4 down mode there is absolutely no reason a coach would have been sprinting after Richardson unless they wanted him in there, and Richardson was not headed back towards the field until the coach had gotten to him and told him they needed him in there. Then it was too late.

I really want to make clear that the point I'm trying to make is that the sideline was a mess, that was a big play in the game, and I think Haley should have taken a timeout and let things settle down for a second.

[l0rd0s3]

Originally Posted by Sully

The TV didnt show a coach running to him prior to him running on the field, but showed Hoffman pulling him off after he was running out.

exactly.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I'll start a thread about it because he was the main reason the offense sputtered all day. If you don't like it, don't post in it.

Second, you can find a good right tackle in the later rounds, so no.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by DRU

You apparently weren't at the game. I'm in 119 right on the 50 yard line and I got a great look at the entire series of events. I just re-watched it on the DVR and they missed a LOT of that action.

The coach (I really don't know which one) came running all the way down to field, sprinting, to try and get Richardson onto the field. He got to him and tapped him on the shoulder (he was completely at the end all by himself) and then Richardson started to run onto the field only to see, oh shit, nevermind I can't now.

If Haley confirmed they were in 4 down mode there is absolutely NO reason a coach would have been sprinting after Richardson unless they wanted him in there, and Richardson was not headed back towards the field until the coach had gotten to him and told him they needed him in there. Then it was too late.

I really want to make clear that the point I'm trying to make is that the sideline was a mess, that was a big play in the game, and I think Haley should have taken a timeout and let things settle down for a second.

Which coach tapped him on the shoulder? I don't recall seeing a coach near him from the TV angle (but may have missed it).
And why would the ST coach be the one of all those coaches to decide there wasn't enough time for the sub and pull him?

[l0rd0s3]

Originally Posted by DRU

You apparently weren't at the game. I just re-watched it on the DVR and they missed a LOT of that action.

The coach (I really don't know which one) came running all the way down to field, sprinting, to try and get Richardson onto the field. He got to him and tapped him on the shoulder (he was completely at the end all by himself) and then Richardson started to run onto the field only to see, oh shit, nevermind I can't now.

If Haley confirmed they were in 4 down mode there is absolutely no reason a coach would have been sprinting after Richardson unless they wanted him in there, and Richardson was not headed back towards the field until the coach had gotten to him and told him they needed him in there. Then it was too late.

I really want to make clear that the point I'm trying to make is that the sideline was a mess, that was a big play in the game, and I think Haley should have taken a timeout and let things settle down for a second.

You're right, I wasn't at the game. I'm saying apparently your theory doesn't make sense because the timeline is all wrong.

[DRU]

Originally Posted by Sully

Which coach tapped him on the shoulder? I don't recall seeing a coach near him from the TV angle (but may have missed it).
And why would the ST coach be the one of all those coaches to decide there wasn't enough time for the sub and pull him?

I'm a born and raised, die-hard Chiefs fan, but I don't know all of the assistant coach's faces and without numbers it's a little tough anyway from the stands. I'm really not sure which coach it was that ran after him.

My view of the Chiefs bench is from behind and Barry came off on the far left side of the bench. That's when the tantrum began and he was pushing and shoving anybody in his way all the way down to the complete opposite side (far right) all by himself.

A coach that was still on the far left began running after him what looked like as fast as he could and he's the one who tapped Barry on the shoulder and pointed towards the field. That's when Barry turned around and started on but then was pulled right back off.

The TV only caught him getting pulled back off. There was a lot more going on before that.