Chiefs Emery to Bears as next GM?

[Marco Polo]

Sorry if repost, hopefully this wouldn't hurt our scouting for the draft.

Two league sources tell the Chicago Sun Times that Chiefs college scouting director Phil Emery is in the "driver's seat" to replace Jerry Angelo as the Bears' next general manager.

Emery worked in the Falcons' front office when Atlanta drafted Michael Vick, and has been with Scott Pioli in Kansas City for the last three seasons. A 31-year football veteran, Emery's background is almost strictly in college scouting.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No, I don't know what principals of schools in the detail that you do.

But I know enough to know that comparing the level of responsibility between the two positions is absolutely laughable. If anything, a Principal is more a GM than he is a scouting director.

Principals aren't teachers themselves. They have a million and a half other things to deal with. College Scouting Directors have to be scouting gurus.

Level of responsibility? You're the one saying that Phil Emery essentially does everything. He oversees an entire scouting operation.

The principal is only responsible for 1,000 kids each day as well as about 100 staff members in a typical school.

Yeah, that level of responsibility pales in comparison to a guy who watches film and conducts interviews of college athletes.

Most principals were teachers prior. That's pretty much the succession. Just like most Scouting directors were scouts prior.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what I can gather is that you think principals of schools do nothing? It's the same principle. He organizes everything, analyzes numbers, communicates with staffs, checks productivity and then reports to his boss.

He has a network of scouts and the "Patriot way" has always been one one leaves they have his replacement ready in the front office/scouting/coaching.

This team is in bad shape, but it's not going to completely tank drafts if Phil Emery leaves, contrary to what you and Boss Chief want to keep preaching.

What leaves this team in bad shape by your estimation other than the GM wanting to stick by a shitty QB?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what I can gather is that you think principals of schools do nothing? It's the same principle. He organizes everything, analyzes numbers, communicates with staffs, checks productivity and then reports to his boss.

He has a network of scouts and the "Patriot way" has always been one one leaves they have his replacement ready in the front office/scouting/coaching.

This team is in bad shape, but it's not going to completely tank drafts if Phil Emery leaves, contrary to what you and Boss Chief want to keep preaching.

Thisis a trick used by desperate people.

Over extenuate the opponents stance to make your own stance seem more plausible.

I NEVER said it would cause us to "completely tank drafts" and neither did anyone else.

Let me ask you a question.

If Eric Decosta leaves the Ravens, do you think that would lead them to lesser drafts?

Do you also think that if they lost Decosta, that Eric would want to take some of his best scouts with him to his future destination?

Emery is our Decosta and it's arguable that Phil has done a better job over the course of the last two years.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

What leaves this team in bad shape by your estimation other than the GM wanting to stick by a shitty QB?

Exactly.

Can't have a team without a quarterback.

The team will always be in bad shape with Matt Cassel.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Level of responsibility? You're the one saying that Phil Emery essentially does everything. He oversees an entire scouting operation.

The scouting operation isn't everything. There is a college personnel department. There is a pro personnel department. And that's just scouting. Emery doesn't know the stuff about current NFL players as Ray Farmer/Pioli know, nor should he have to. As a GM, there are coaches and players you have to micromanage. There is being the face of the organization. There is the networking aspect of bargaining with other GMs. Etc... Etc... Etc... That's just the tip of the iceberg. Pioli is accountable for all of those things. He's not expected to be the most knowledgeable about college prospects. That's Emery's job, because while Pioli spends a fraction of a day thinking about them, Emery commits his entire work year to it. So when it comes to scouting, duh... Emery does virtually everything. It's that way in any organization. A CEO doesn't have to be an expert at Marketing. A college chancellor doesn't have to be an expert at English. That's why both of them have department heads that specialize in it.

The principal is only responsible for 1,000 kids each day as well as about 100 staff members in a typical school.

Yeah, that level of responsibility pales in comparison to a guy who watches film and conducts interviews of college athletes.[/quote]
This is not a knock on principals. But the difficulty of managing a scouting operation is a hell of a lot more difficult than most jobs, including principal. That's why they probably work (I would imagine) 100 hour weeks, why they're groomed to be GMs, and why they make a shitload of money.

Most principals were teachers prior. That's pretty much the succession. Just like most Scouting directors were scouts prior.

Again, principals are not accountable for teaching students. They are accountable for making sure teachers teach their students right. Scouting Directors are accountable for making sure scouts evaluate students right, and then they are involved with actual scouting once a shorter list has been developed. And then they are accountable for being a GM's go-to guy for getting the scoop on any player he's interested in.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

What leaves this team in bad shape by your estimation other than the GM wanting to stick by a shitty QB?

The scouting operation in New England really slipped when they lost Dimitroff. It came surging back when they got Caserio. People want to blame Pioli for that lull, but he is only as good as the information that's given to him. It's the same deal here, I'm sure. While Pioli I'm sure micromanages Emery, I'm sure he also relies very heavily on Emery to get him good information. If the information stinks, then Pioli can't make good decisions.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
The #Bears on the verge of hiring #Chiefs dir. of college scouting Phil Emery as GM. NFL sources said just a matter now of dotting the i's.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...as-city-chiefs

Bears Reportedly Nearing Deal With Chiefs' Phil Emery For GM Job


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Sounds like the Kansas City Chiefs are about to lose a member of their front office.

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that the Chicago Bears are closing in on Phil Emery as their next general manager:

The Bears on the verge of hiring Chiefs dir. of college scouting Phil Emery as GM. NFL sources said just a matter now of dotting the i's.

McGinn's got a terrific reputation around the league for these sorts of reports so unfortunately the Chiefs are probably going to end up losing Emery.

He came here in 2009 along with GM Scott Pioli after previously working in Atlanta for the Falcons. He was also an area scout for the Bears before that so he has that Chicago connection.

[Titty Meat]

Matt Cassel to the Bears for a 2nd and Andy Studebaker.

[Titty Meat]

Why's a guy from Milwaukee breaking a story about teams from Kansas City & Chicago?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

skjensenSean Jensen

Just landed in Mobile. #Bears HAVE NOT offered Phil Emery the job... Yet. I suspect another round of interviews

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Awwwwww shiiiiiiiit....looks like the "Chiefsway" is spreading...

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2012..._begins_u.html

'What, Chief?' Emery era begins under cone of silence
By Mark Potash on February 10, 2012 1:56 PM | No Comments | No TrackBacks
As expected, the Bears are battening down the hatches and activating the cone of silence in preparation for their first NFL draft under general manager Phil Emery.

The Bears have alerted the media that only coach Lovie Smith will be available for an interview -- and only one -- during the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis on Feb. 22-28. In previous years, Smith and general manager Jerry Angelo would meet with Bears beat reporters and scouts or assistants in Indy for the Combine usually would be accessible.

But Emery, who spent eight years at the Naval Academy, where ''Loose Lips Sinks Ships,'' made it clear that under his leadership, the Bears will divulge as little information about their wants and needs in the draft and free agency as possible.

''When it comes time to publicly assess our needs or publicly talk about players that we may target, we will not do that. OK?,'' Emery said in response to the very first question asked of him at his introductory press conference on Jan. 30. ''Because I feel that's a competitive disadvantage to do so.


''We will know internally what our needs are. We will know internally the players we are going to target. We will not give away our competitive advantage to outline who those individuals are or at what position they are.''

All Emery would promise is that the Bears would target ''good football players, producers, dynamic playmakers that can help this football team grow.'' Good to know their plan of attack in acquiring talent is the same as every professional franchise in sports history, with the possible exception of the Washington Generals.

That said, there is much to be said for the idea of keeping things in-house when it comes to acquiring talent. While many needs are obvious, even from a reporter's perspective it doesn't seem to make much sense to address them too specifically in a public forum.

Every so often it at least appears to make a difference. In 2001, the Bears had the No. 8 pick in the first round and did not hide their interest in a defensive end. In NFL circles and publicly, it was clear they had their eyes on Cal defensive end Andre Carter.

The 49ers, who had the ninth pick, also wanted Carter and leapfrogged the Bears in the draft order by trading with the Seattle Seahawks for the No. 7 pick and selected Carter. The Bears were happy to get Michigan wide receiver David Terrell -- a supposed top-3 pick who was still available -- with their pick at No. 8.

Whether or not the Bears lost Carter by publicly or privately telegraphing their intentions, there's an obvious premium on information and mis-information prior to the draft. Jim Finks, who built the Bears' Super Bowl championship team, was a master at disguising his intentions.

In Finks' first draft with the Bears in 1975, he refused to tip his end on what he might do with the No. 4 overall pick, but did mention that he liked Texas A & I fullback Don Hardeman, then drafted Jackson State's Walter Payton. As it turned out, they would have drafted Payton with the No. 1 pick if they had it, coach Jack Pardee said.

In fact, almost every key Finks No. 1 pick -- Payton, Dan Hampton, Otis Wilson, Dennis Lick, Ted Albrecht -- had one thing in common: Finks never said a word about them. It wasn't until Mike Ditka was hired by George Halas and given some of Finks' say in the draft room that the Bears started showing more of their hand.

It's in the Bears' best interest to not reveal anything regarding who they like or what they're looking for. But if their silence on personnel matters under Emery is going to be absolute, it's a policy that's likely to backfire in Chicago.

Bears fans like to know what their GM is thinking. Does he think the quarterback makes the wide receiver? Does he need a clear ''No. 1'' wide receiver. Will he take players who are red-flagged for injuries? How much of a chance will he take on players with personal issues? And what about the backup quarterback?

Unless he drafts as well as Jim Finks did, Phil Emery is going to have to find a way to answer those questions without revealing whom he's drafting. It's not that difficult. You just have to have an appreciation for the fact that Bears fans have a more vested emotional interest in this team than anyone at Halas Hall except maybe Virginia McCaskey. And they want to know not only that you plan to win, but how you're going to do it.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

NDIANAPOLIS — Bears general manager Phil Emery was busy meeting with agents throughout the day Friday at the NFL scouting combine.

Emery visited with representatives of Bears players who are set to become free agents, according to sources, and also got together with Todd France, who doesn't have any current players on the Bears roster but does represent a pair of free-agent wide receivers in Dwayne Bowe and Eddie Royal.

Bowe will be one of the prized players on the open market March 13 if the Chiefs do not sign him to a long-term deal or place the franchise tag on him at a cost of roughly $10 million. Emery knows the 27-year-old Bowe well from his tenure with the Chiefs. The 6-foot-2, 221-pound Bowe caught 81 passes for 1,159 yards and five touchdowns last season from quarterbacks Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton. The year before, Bowe led the NFL with 15 touchdown receptions.

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli said before arriving at the combine his team would have about $38 million, which would leave enough space for the club to secure Bowe and cornerback Brandon Carr and leave room for plenty more transactions. So the chances of Bowe reaching the marketplace aren't good.

Like new quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, Royal would be a familiar figure for quarterback Jay Cutler. As a rookie in 2008, Royal caught 91 passes for 980 yards playing with Cutler for the Broncos. He hasn't been nearly as productive since the Bears acquired Cutler. Royal is 5-10, 185, though, and the team already has a cast of similar-sized targets.

France also represents draft prospects worthy of discussion — Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon and Mississippi State defensive tackle Fletcher Cox. Both are considered first-round talents, and Blackmon will likely be long gone before the Bears select at No. 19 overall.

The process in Indianapolis, including a night packed with interviews with draft prospects, is one Chairman George McCaskey is exploring. He arrived Friday afternoon and will be involved at least in the background as he experiences the combine for the first time in his role.

It's hard to say what the Bears will have to consider when free agency opens. The deadline for franchise tags to be used is March 5, so that date will provide some clarity. But teams can do deals with their own players all the way through, and there is no guarantee wide receiver Vincent Jackson will make it out of San Diego. The Chargers could re-sign the 29-year-old. If he's off the market, the Bears might be left to consider players such as Marques Colston of the Saints or Reggie Wayne of the Colts.

There are questions that accompany both of those receivers. How effective will Colston be not playing in New Orleans' scheme? He's a possession receiver who has spent his entire career with Drew Brees and has played all of his home games in the ideal passing conditions created by a dome. Wayne is 33, two years older than Muhsin Muhammad was when the Bears signed him in 2005.

Emery has a lot to consider in a short amount of time. The Bears will get a closer look at wide receiver options for the draft beginning Sunday when those players work out at the combine.

[Titty Meat]

So Emery was tampering.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

So Emery was tampering.