Should Penn State Get the Death Penalty?

[Trivers]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/481264...lege_football/


Looks like officials are going from Penn State to state pen. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

What say ye? If so, for how long?

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well RaiderH8r just took it to a whole new level of reerun.

That's possibly the single least intelligent screed I've ever read. You're absolutely right - 4 people exercised wretched judgment, so thousands should lose their jobs.

Brilliant. Just absolutely ****ing brilliant. I disagree with the folks that want the death penalty for the football program. I think they're being rash and wrong-headed, but at least I kinda understand why (even if they're simply factually inaccurate on the boundaries of NCAA regulatory authority).

RadierH8r, on the other hand, is just a goddamn moron.

It's an institution. Let it pay its own civil penalties out of its own coffers. What is so hard to understand? If Penn State has to go away so be it. If you think the civil penalties are too high then that is a different issue but Penn State is not that important that it can't go away.

There are hundreds of public, state institutions and close to 2,000 private institutions in the US. Lots of room for all the chips to land.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by frazod

Honored for the sake of the children? Really? What the **** does that even mean? HEY, I'M GOING TO LIVE IN A BOX NOW BECAUSE MY BOSSES COVERED UP RAPE CRIMES. BUT THE CHILDREN HONOR ME!!!!!!!

You sound like that stupid twat who thought she wouldn't have to pay her mortgage any more after a black president was elected.

No wonder everybody ****ing hates you.

Dude you just pick out certain things you want and don't address the rest. I gave a solution. 6 months salary to find a job. Don't think you live out of a box with that. After that get another job or file for unemployment. You're just an idiot and have no counter argument.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I swear to God, some people are simply incapable of engaging their brains right now. Even if the NCAA wanted to, there is nothing within their regulatory authority that allows them to punish a college for conduct committed by their employees, even employees associated with athletics, for non-athletic related activities. The NCAA does not have plenary police power here.

This statement seems obvious, but after all the dumb analogies, it's almost enlightening. It went on for so long, people want the department flushed until PSU is 100% sure nothing remains from the cover-up, and an example should be made, etc... but, the good ole' boy in the good ole' boy network is gone, and the Department of Education is investigating PSU in regards to the Clery Act. My knee-jerk reaction was to vote yes, but reading the part about the DoE investigation provided the realization (or the 'duh' moment) that it's not in the NCAA's court.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Is there something you want to tell us? Do you need to show us on the doll? Not sure what else could make someone go this full reerun.

The Catholic Church, as an institution, is held accountable for the actions of its few, and rightfully so.

I'm just suggesting turning off the public spigot until this financial mess is cleared up.

The University is welcome to recruit and attract students with whatever means remain at its disposal. Its alumni are free to donate to the University. In all ways, except public financing, the institution will remain as almost 2,000 others, privately funded. It only seems right that if you're concerned about the impact on the "innocent" for the actions of a few then you should extend that concern to the tax payers who should not be funding a dime of civil penalties that result from the actions of Sandusky or the Penn State staff involved in the deed or the cover up. What's the problem with understanding this?

[tk13]

I don't know if they should get the death penalty, but when Baylor went downhill they got the hammer dropped on them. Pretty much all NCAA sanctions hurt innocent people. I don't think they'll get the death penalty, but I wouldn't feel sorry if they got some form of punishment like Baylor did. This is probably one of the most twisted things in the history of American sport. The NCAA certainly isn't a criminal court but an athletic program did drive a massive cover up here.
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[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Dude you just pick out certain things you want and don't address the rest. I gave a solution. 6 months salary to find a job. Don't think you live out of a box with that. After that get another job or file for unemployment. You're just an idiot and have no counter argument.

You're the moron who wants to devastate the economy of a small city over the actions of a handful of scumbags. Six months salary is no solution for people losing jobs they've had for years; people with responsibilities and families to support. And what about the people who make a living providing them services? **** them, too, right? The honor of the children will pay their ****ing bills when their business fold, right? Dumbass.

And **** you for the brain cells I lost reading your stupid ****ing post. I didn't think it was possible for somebody on this board to be so goddamn dumb that they make Wickedson look smart. Go back to your minimum wage job and living in your mom's basement and leave the grown up conversations to the adults.

[gblowfish]

Reminder of how awesome the Onion is:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/joe...e-to-te,27125/

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

The Catholic Church, as an institution, is held accountable for the actions of its few, and rightfully so.

I'm just suggesting turning off the public spigot until this financial mess is cleared up.

The University is welcome to recruit and attract students with whatever means remain at its disposal. Its alumni are free to donate to the University. In all ways, except public financing, the institution will remain as almost 2,000 others, privately funded. It only seems right that if you're concerned about the impact on the "innocent" for the actions of a few then you should extend that concern to the tax payers who should not be funding a dime of civil penalties that result from the actions of Sandusky or the Penn State staff involved in the deed or the cover up. What's the problem with understanding this?

Let's correct an injustice done to some people by committing an injustice on thousands of people.
Brilliant.

[GordonGekko]

Death Penalty for Penn State Football do doubt. I'd go beyond and say that once the penalty time has ended, they are put in Division II and not Division I or whatever the **** they call it now.

The shame is punishment enough for the rest of the University that no traditional punishment is necessary.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Let's correct an injustice done to some people by committing an injustice on thousands of people.
Brilliant.

Not sure who wins the Dumb Off here - Setsuna's giving him a serious run for his money.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Joe Schad @schadjoe
NCAA expert attorney Michael Buckner read Freeh Report and said it does not show lack of institutional control as defined by NCAA Manual.

The NCAA is gutless and won't touch this issue.

**** their manual. You know child rape took place on your property, it was reported to you. You heard other reports of child molestation from other kids about the same guy and you did nothing. Gave him a raise and covered it up. Thats a criminal offense. A go to jail for a long time offense. Its not against the manual to report child rape? Do we really have to spell that out?

Their inaction caused children to be molested later by the same animal. They are just as guilty. They deserve the death penalty.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

**** their manual. You know child rape took place on your property, it was reported to you. You heard other reports of child molestation from other kids about the same guy and you did nothing. Gave him a raise and covered it up. Thats a criminal offense. A go to jail for a long time offense. Its not against the manual to report child rape? Do we really have to spell that out?

Their inaction caused children to be molested later by the same animal. They are just as guilty. They deserve the death penalty.

Sure. They should act outside of their charter, just seize authority they don't have. You are correct, it's a criminal offense. There is a venue for that but it isn't the NCAA.
C'mon BRC, you're a smart guy. Think about it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Sure. They should act outside of their charter, just seize authority they don't have. You are correct, it's a criminal offense. There is a venue for that but it isn't the NCAA.
C'mon BRC, you're a smart guy. Think about it.

I dont give a shit about the NCAA. The NCAA are a bunch of hypocrites. They wont do the right thing unless it matches their end game,

This was a criminal act. They covered up the molestation of children so they could continue to profit. How slimy can you be? Our society tolerates a lot of things, forgives a lot of transgressions against us. But, child molestation is a line that if crossed you get no second chance, ever.

This was against the law. They should all be arrested and brought in for questioning and spend the night in jail tonight. let em post bail until the trial.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I dont give a shit about the NCAA. The NCAA are a bunch of hypocrites. They wont do the right thing unless it matches their end game,

This was a criminal. They covered up the molestation of children so they could continue to profit. How slimy can you be? Our society tolerates a lot of things, forgives a lot of transgressions against us. But, child molestation is a line that if crossed you get no second chance, ever.

This was against the law. They should all be in jail tonight. let em post bail until the trial.

Forgive me, I thought you were appealing to the NCAA to take action.

Is there someone who should be on trial who isn't/wasn't?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

**** their manual. You know child rape took place on your property, it was reported to you. You heard other reports of child molestation from other kids about the same guy and you did nothing. Gave him a raise and covered it up. Thats a criminal offense. A go to jail for a long time offense. Its not against the manual to report child rape? Do we really have to spell that out?

Their inaction caused children to be molested later by the same animal. They are just as guilty. They deserve the death penalty.

The Department of Education is investigating their lack of compliance with the Clery Act. It's not an athletic issue.