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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-16-2013, 02:23 PM

Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play.

It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started.

The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since.

Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year.

But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season.

Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities.

“I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh.

“We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’

Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season.

He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs.

“That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work.

“You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’

Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either.

“He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’

The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high.

“I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing.

“This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’

The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group.

Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown.

“We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’

kcxiv · 05-16-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think he needs to lose weight and gain some quickness. IMO, he looks less explosive and bigger in the NFL than he did in College.

ON twitter last year, he was talking about getting "bigger" in terms of putting muscle on. I said, dont get to big or you will lose speed. He actually replied back n said, he still runs a 4.4 40. Probably lying, but hey, he said it. Then proceeded to have a shitty season, but he's also had really ****ing terrible qb's, Not bad, ****ing TERRIBLE

Rasputin · 05-16-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

**** my life....and we end up with the scraps (Alex Myth) for twice the price of what it would have taken to draft Kaepernick.

Again.

I don't know.

An interesting poll would be "which decisions was the worst?...Ryan Sims at 6? Tyson Jackson at 3? Dorsey at 5? Cassel at 36 (with a 63 million dollar contract)?

I was thinking the same thing. We can make a list of players and then if Rain Man wanted to conduct our poll we could get a ranking of players that have burnt this franchise to the last year.

**SAUTO** · 05-16-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I don't buy it.

Actually TBG said it not me. I just repeated it
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**SAUTO** · 05-16-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Well shit, maybe he shouldn't have taken the job then.

This
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Pasta Little Brioni · 05-16-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Just throwing a blind dart at the wall, but can Baldwin bulk up some and play TE?

Can he gain say 20lbs and play receiving TE? He wouldn't have to be that fast just a big body receiver that takes up space.

You are joining that dickbag Sauto on ignore

chiefzilla1501 · 05-16-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

ON twitter last year, he was talking about getting "bigger" in terms of putting muscle on. I said, dont get to big or you will lose speed. He actually replied back n said, he still runs a 4.4 40. Probably lying, but hey, he said it. Then proceeded to have a shitty season, but he's also had really ****ing terrible qb's, Not bad, ****ing TERRIBLE

I told people a while ago... just because the guy loves to work out, doesn't mean he has a good work ethic. The guy is a ****ing diva. He would rather look good and buff then do the kind of workout that will make him better.

Rasputin · 05-16-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

You are joining that dickbag Sauto on ignore

not sure if serious photo: Not Sure If Serious notsureifserious.gif

-King- · 05-16-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I told people a while ago... just because the guy loves to work out, doesn't mean he has a good work ethic. The guy is a ****ing diva. He would rather look good and buff then do the kind of workout that will make him better.

You got all that out of that one post?

Chiefshrink · 05-16-2013, 08:32 PM

Should,woulda, coulda. Don't play that game and put yourselves through anymore needless emotional pain than need be. Why ??? Because we have

"Tyler 'The NUKE' Bray"

Coogs · 05-16-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

“He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback

BA-BAM!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-16-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

****er was going down on Matt Cassel

Aaaaaaand FXD.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-16-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I keep forgetting about Baldwin.

I think we'd all like to forget Baldwin.
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Direckshun · 05-16-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Especially when you consider ***** took Baldwin instead of Kapernick when everyone in the war room wanted Kapernick.

What?

Is this a real thing?

How do we know this?

Holy balls.

mcaj22 · 05-16-2013, 10:30 PM

i dont know how some of you are just figuring this all out

dont you watch NFL Network? Scooter has said plenty of times since his new cozy TV gig that his evaluation for the draft in 2011 was off, he liked both Dalton and Kap, and still didnt take either like he should have. It's clearly hindsight revisionism at this point, but if he had a time machine knowing what he knows now, he clearly hints at not making the Baldwin pick.

He's done this plenty of times on TV, especially when they kept asking him about QBs leading up to the draft, it was always "When I was in KC, blah blah blah, we looked at blah and blah blah and I liked him but we obviously blah blah"

Saccopoo · 05-16-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Also Jacobs71 said Majority of the recievers were rounding off there routes and David Culley and Andy Reid let them hear it.

These ****ing guys were so sloppy and undisciplined under Crennel and Daboll it wasn't even funny.

The entire Pioli regime was a complete and utter disaster.

That guy absolutely stole money from Clark.

05-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2757187	Teicher:Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play. It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started. The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since. Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year. But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season. Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities. “I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh. “We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’ Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season. He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown. Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs. “That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work. “You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’ Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either. “He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’ The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high. “I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing. “This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’ The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group. Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown. “We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	i dont know how some of you are just figuring this all out dont you watch NFL Network? Scooter has said plenty of times since his new cozy TV gig that his evaluation for the draft in 2011 was off, he liked both Dalton and Kap, and still didnt take either like he should have. It's clearly hindsight revisionism at this point, but if he had a time machine knowing what he knows now, he clearly hints at not making the Baldwin pick. He's done this plenty of times on TV, especially when they kept asking him about QBs leading up to the draft, it was always "When I was in KC, blah blah blah, we looked at blah and blah blah and I liked him but we obviously blah blah"
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