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View Poll Results: Who is better that Alex Smith?
Aaron Rodgers - Green Bay Packers 193 91.90%
Andrew Luck - Indianapolis Colts 178 84.76%
Andy Dalton - Cincinnati Bengals 49 23.33%
Ben Roethlisberger - Pittsburgh Steelers 138 65.71%
Brian Hoyer - Cleveland Browns 5 2.38%
Cam Newton - Carolina Panthers 108 51.43%
Carson Palmer - Arizona Cardinals 23 10.95%
Chad Henne - Jacksonville Jaguars 8 3.81%
Colin Kaepernick - San Francisco 49ers 86 40.95%
Derek Carr - Oakland Raiders 15 7.14%
Drew Brees - New Orleans Saints 187 89.05%
EJ Manuel - Buffalo Bills 13 6.19%
Eli Manning - New York Giants 87 41.43%
Geno Smith - New York Jets 25 11.90%
Jay Cutler - Chicago Bears 71 33.81%
Joe Flacco - Baltimore Ravens 89 42.38%
Matt Cassel - Minnesota Vikings 9 4.29%
Matt Ryan - Atlanta Falcons 115 54.76%
Matthew Stafford - Detroit Lions 104 49.52%
Mike Glennon - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 4.76%
Nick Foles - Philadelphia Eagles 78 37.14%
Peyton Manning - Denver Broncos 185 88.10%
Philip Rivers - San Diego Chargers 156 74.29%
Robert Griffin III - Washington Redskins 59 28.10%
Russell Wilson - Seattle Seahawks 147 70.00%
Ryan Fitzpatrick - Houston Texans 7 3.33%
Jake Locker - Tennessee Titans 11 5.24%
Ryan Tannehill - Miami Dolphins 22 10.48%
Shaun Hill - St. Louis Rams 7 3.33%
Tom Brady - New England Patriots 190 90.48%
Tony Romo - Dallas Cowboys 95 45.24%
All of them 11 5.24%
None of them 9 4.29%
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:55 PM   #1
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Stafford? The guy who consistently loses despite having more weapons than Rambo? What's Stafford's record when his opposition scores more than 24?
just for shits and giggles:

Last 3 yrs

2013 - 3-5
2012 - 1-10
2011 - 4-4

record: 8-19
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:03 PM   #2
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just for shits and giggles:

Last 3 yrs

2013 - 3-5
2012 - 1-10
2011 - 4-4

record: 8-19
8 wins in 3 years vs 3 wins for Alex's entire career.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:07 PM   #3
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8 wins in 3 years vs 3 wins for Alex's entire career.
Alex Smith just got PAID... and is the Chiefs' QB.

I win... you lose.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:55 PM   #4
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Pretty meaningless stat I guess since guys who subjectively are better than Smith suck at it too
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:55 PM   #5
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Pretty meaningless stat I guess since guys who subjectively are better than Smith suck at it too
They just suck less at it.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:56 PM   #6
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They just suck less at it.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:57 PM   #7
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And that means dick
Just means that guys who are "subjectively better than Smith" are actually better than Smith.

But lets not get technical about it.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:59 PM   #8
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Just means that guys who are "subjectively better than Smith" are actually better than Smith.

But lets not get technical about it.
To use an old phrase "better than bad does not equal good"

I can come up with stats that'll make Mark Sanchez look like the best quarterback in the nfl...doesn't matter
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:52 PM   #9
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Pretty meaningless stat I guess since guys who subjectively are better than Smith suck at it too
This applies here just as much here as on the other thread I posted it to.

The 24 point barrier is not a meaningless number picked at random.

The 2013 season was the highest scoring season in NFL history. Take a look at the average points per game for professional teams (including the AAFC and AFL) since 1940:




http://www.footballperspective.com/s...on-since-1940/



Champions have to be able to score more than 25 points by and large, to navigate the playoffs and win it all. There are exceptions to the rule, but by and large, if you are 1 for 35 when opponents score at least 24 points, your playoff run will be brief. By and large. Don't go all 2000 Ravens on me.



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This applies here just as much as on the other thread I posted it to.

The 24 point barrier is not a meaningless number picked at random.

The 2013 season was the highest scoring season in NFL history. Take a look at the average points per game for professional teams (including the AAFC and AFL) since 1940:




http://www.footballperspective.com/s...on-since-1940/



Champions have to be able to score more than 25 points by and large, to navigate the playoffs and win it all. There are exceptions to the rule, but by and large, if you are 1 for 35 when opponents score at least 24 points, your playoff run will be brief. By and large. Don't go all 2000 Ravens on me.



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The Chiefs as a team scored more than 25 per game last year. I also showed in another thread where we gave up 34 points per game in our losses last year. Go away with your stupid shit.

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Old 09-02-2014, 08:12 PM   #11
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The Chiefs as a team scored more than 25 per game last year. I also showed in another thread where we gave up 34 points per game in our losses last year. Go away with your stupid shit.
It is OK that you don't get it and you never will. The stat will continue to be a telling indicator with or without you.

Giving up more than 24 points to an opponent is a real indicator and it neither meaningless or arbitrary. You are just being hard-headed and refusing to see it because you have already made your call and now you can't back down.

The laughable thing is that you even admit the Chiefs scored more than 25 points per game in an 11-5 year. Which is what you would expect -- something north of 8-8 if you are scoring more than 25 points a game and/or holding opponents to under 24 points. You are making my case.
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It is OK that you don't get it and you never will. The stat will continue to be a telling indicator with or without you.

Giving up more than 24 points to an opponent is a real indicator and it neither meaningless or arbitrary. You are just being hard-headed and refusing to see it because you have already made your call and now you can't back down.

The laughable thing is that you even admit the Chiefs scored more than 25 points per game in an 11-5 year. Which is what you would expect -- something north of 8-8 if you are scoring more than 25 points a game and/or holding opponents to under 24 points. You are making my case.
What part of we gave up 34 points per game avg in the losses do you not understand?
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:58 PM   #13
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Alex Smith would take that Lions team to the playoffs. Stafford would be a 3-13 qb in KC
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:06 PM   #14
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Cant wait for Geno to get his ACL torn by Dontari Poe. Then Clay will bitch about how we need to take Marcus Mariota

Also Here is how Alex Smith Contract Breaks down

Signing bonus: $18 million

2014: $1 million
2015: $11.9 million
2016: $14.1 million
2017: $10.2 million (+ $2 million roster bonus)
2018: $14.5 million (+ $2 million roster bonus)

The $18 million signing bonus and $1 million 2014 salary is fully guaranteed.

If he is on the roster on the third day of the 2015 league year (next March - very likely), his 2015 and 2016 salaries totaling $26 million become fully guaranteed, according to La Canfora's report.

Those figures total the reported $45 million guaranteed and his three-year pay-out. You hear people talk about the three year pay-out because NFL contracts aren't real contracts and teams will just cut players with few penalties in the back end of contracts.

Smith's previous cap number was $8 million. If the signing bonus pro-rates over the life of the deal ($3.6 million per year) and you add in his 2014 salary ($1 million) that comes out to a $4.6 million cap hit this year, which actually saves the Chiefs money against the cap. Funny how contracts work, huh?
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