Chiefs Andy Reid: I still think Chiefs can win with Alex Smith - Page 7

oaklandhater · 01-16-2017, 09:04 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ith-alex-smith

By Marc Sessler
Around the NFL Writer

Sunday's disaster at Arrowhead Stadium hasn't shaken Kansas City's confidence in Alex Smith.

"Do I still think we can win with Alex? Yeah, we were right there," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said of his starting quarterback on Monday, per Terez Paylor of The Kansas City Star.

Smith stumbled badly in Sunday's 18-16 playoff loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, throwing for just 172 yards, with much of that coming during a fourth-quarter surge that fell short.

After leading an opening scoring drive, Smith's next six possessions resulted in a punt, pick, punt, fumble and two more punts before the Chiefs finally chiseled out a field goal at the end of the third quarter.

To be fair, Smith saw no help from the cast of weapons who helped Kansas City rally down the stretch.

As we noted Sunday, tight end Travis Kelce -- who topped 100-plus receiving yards in five of his previous seven games -- accounted for just 34 yards over the first 50 minutes against Pittsburgh. His most memorable play was a disastrous, unhinged personal-foul that drew the ire of his own teammates.

Game-breaking rookie Tyreek Hill, meanwhile, managed just 45 total yards, while starting wideout Jeremy Maclin finished second among all pass-catchers with a meager 28 yards through the air.

The finger-pointing goes beyond Smith, who rolled into the game with the league's fourth-highest playoff passer rating among active quarterbacks. Still, the Chiefs starter -- like 90 percent of the league -- simply can't duplicate the play of the NFL's premier passers.

Smith is ideal for a ball-control offense that wins games by eliminating mistakes, but he's not the guy who can reliably scorch defenses in January with a litany of jaw-dropping throws all over the field. Sunday's loss was a total team letdown, but it's fair to ask if -- and how -- Smith's ceiling will suddenly rise next season.

From where we stand, Kansas City needs everyone on offense playing at a near-perfect level for Smith to make it to a Super Bowl with the Chiefs. When that doesn't happen -- as it didn't on Sunday -- a team like Pittsburgh can sail by without scoring a touchdown.

It's not that Smith should be replaced -- plenty of teams would snatch him up -- but he certainly deserves competition. It would make sense for Reid to examine free agency and the draft for a quarterback or two who can furnish this attack with a different look.

Chiefs fans don't want to hear it -- especially not today -- but this coaching staff would be wise to take a long look at this roster before next September. Why not explore all possibilities?

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-17-2017, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

You are predicting that a 33 year old Smith is going to throw for more yards than he's ever thrown for in a season and going to have his highest TD total ever.

With all things considered, IMO we'll see Alex's skills to erode since seemingly he lost a step this season. If he can't rely on his mobility then he's no question a JAG

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

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Andy was asked point blank if Smith is the QB next year and he evaded to answer. He didn't say yes so there is hope. Dorsey would be insane to bring back Smith.

Reid is a master at manipulating these media types. He knew Smith hadn't played well enough. That was not the time to be endorsing Alex. We will know what Reid really thinks in the upcoming months.

rabblerouser · 01-17-2017, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't see any reason to rush this. I don't think Alex gives us a great chance at a super bowl. But he gives as an outside chance of one. I would only give him 1-2 years anyway and I'm guessing he does too, judging by his wife's comments. Groom a QB on the bench. There's no reason to rush it but there is a critical urgency to find a clear QBOTF. Not just giving a young QB a shot... finding a guy we believe can start for us for 10 years.

over the past few days I've realized that Alex Smith isn't the problem. it's Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs can definitely win with Alex Smith, win a Super Bowl even.

We'd need a coach like a Gruden/Payton/Harbaugh/Carroll/Garrett/McCarthy type to get the most of Smith and our talented but underachieving offense.

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

over the past few days I've realized that Alex Smith isn't the problem. it's Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs can definitely win with Alex Smith, win a Super Bowl even.

We'd need a coach like a Gruden/Payton/Harbaugh/Carroll/Garrett/McCarthy type to get the most of Smith and our talented but underachieving offense.

But with his regular season record he is here to stay. We need to pray he gives up playcalling and/or tries a new QB.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-17-2017, 09:22 AM

We've seen Andy Reid defensive about Alex Smith. But this is the first time it felt like he's put on the ropes.

I don't expect Andy Reid to say anything differently. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Chiefs make a bold move for a QB in the draft. Whether it's Dorsey or Ballard running the show.

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We've seen Andy Reid defensive about Alex Smith. But this is the first time it felt like he's put on the ropes.

I don't expect Andy Reid to say anything differently. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Chiefs make a bold move for a QB in the draft. Whether it's Dorsey or Ballard running the show.

Laying an egg in the biggest home game in eternity will do that. You could really tell during the bye week that the team believed it can get over the hump. And then reality hit.

Chief_For_Life58 · 01-17-2017, 09:40 AM

Idk I think it's actually big red we can do without

**The Franchise** · 01-17-2017, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

With all things considered, IMO we'll see Alex's skills to erode since seemingly he lost a step this season. If he can't rely on his mobility then he's no question a JAG

Alex Smith won't finish the season next year. We either need to have a replacement plan in place or be prepared to finish with a top 10 pick and another OT.

RunKC · 01-17-2017, 09:58 AM

Think about what the Chiefs had to do to win this season and how fortunate they were. They had to have a ST's or defensive TD to be able to put up points. It was over 40% of our scoring output.

The offense was terrible this year and has been for almost 2 years, and that's embarrassing seeing how much talent is here. The fact that the Chiefs lost 6 of their last 8 games to teams that only scored 19 or fewer points is a complete embarrassment.

This team won 12 games with a QB who didn't score 20 TD's. It has a perfect formula for a new QB to step in at a much more efficient cost and a higher ceiling. The only thing the new QB has to do is take care of the ball.

Mr. Plow · 01-17-2017, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The offense was terrible this year and has been for almost 2 years, and that's embarrassing seeing how much talent is here. The fact that the Chiefs lost 6 of their last 8 games to teams that only scored 19 or fewer points is a complete embarrassment.

But we got 15 passing TD's out of our starting QB so we got that going for us.

ChiefsCountry · 01-17-2017, 10:41 AM

Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach. Marty Schottenheimer was a hell of a football coach. Bottom line is come playoff time if you don't have an elite QB, you aren't doing jack shit.

CaliforniaChief · 01-17-2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach. Marty Schottenheimer was a hell of a football coach. Bottom line is come playoff time if you don't have an elite QB, you aren't doing jack shit.

Bingo.

Reerun_KC · 01-17-2017, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach. Marty Schottenheimer was a hell of a football coach. Bottom line is come playoff time if you don't have an elite QB, you aren't doing jack shit.

/thread

siberian khatru · 01-17-2017, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach. Marty Schottenheimer was a hell of a football coach. Bottom line is come playoff time if you don't have an elite QB, you aren't doing jack shit.

That's how it's got to be presented to Clark.

"You're doing the right things, except for the most important thing."

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 11:03 AM

I am not sure if Reid at his current career stage is patient enough to develop a shiny new QB. It could be a 3-4 year window until the results really start to show and even that only if the QB pans out. Think of all the pressure on him that screams 1 wildcard win in 8 years. He could go all in with Alex with the next 2 years in mind with the expectation to be let go if he doesn't get past the divisional round. I think his contract extension will tell a good story.

01-16-2017, 09:04 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	Andy Reid: I still think Chiefs can win with Alex Smith http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ith-alex-smith By Marc Sessler Around the NFL Writer Sunday's disaster at Arrowhead Stadium hasn't shaken Kansas City's confidence in Alex Smith. "Do I still think we can win with Alex? Yeah, we were right there," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said of his starting quarterback on Monday, per Terez Paylor of The Kansas City Star. Smith stumbled badly in Sunday's 18-16 playoff loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, throwing for just 172 yards, with much of that coming during a fourth-quarter surge that fell short. After leading an opening scoring drive, Smith's next six possessions resulted in a punt, pick, punt, fumble and two more punts before the Chiefs finally chiseled out a field goal at the end of the third quarter. To be fair, Smith saw no help from the cast of weapons who helped Kansas City rally down the stretch. As we noted Sunday, tight end Travis Kelce -- who topped 100-plus receiving yards in five of his previous seven games -- accounted for just 34 yards over the first 50 minutes against Pittsburgh. His most memorable play was a disastrous, unhinged personal-foul that drew the ire of his own teammates. Game-breaking rookie Tyreek Hill, meanwhile, managed just 45 total yards, while starting wideout Jeremy Maclin finished second among all pass-catchers with a meager 28 yards through the air. The finger-pointing goes beyond Smith, who rolled into the game with the league's fourth-highest playoff passer rating among active quarterbacks. Still, the Chiefs starter -- like 90 percent of the league -- simply can't duplicate the play of the NFL's premier passers. Smith is ideal for a ball-control offense that wins games by eliminating mistakes, but he's not the guy who can reliably scorch defenses in January with a litany of jaw-dropping throws all over the field. Sunday's loss was a total team letdown, but it's fair to ask if -- and how -- Smith's ceiling will suddenly rise next season. From where we stand, Kansas City needs everyone on offense playing at a near-perfect level for Smith to make it to a Super Bowl with the Chiefs. When that doesn't happen -- as it didn't on Sunday -- a team like Pittsburgh can sail by without scoring a touchdown. It's not that Smith should be replaced -- plenty of teams would snatch him up -- but he certainly deserves competition. It would make sense for Reid to examine free agency and the draft for a quarterback or two who can furnish this attack with a different look. Chiefs fans don't want to hear it -- especially not today -- but this coaching staff would be wise to take a long look at this roster before next September. Why not explore all possibilities?
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1545503	We've seen Andy Reid defensive about Alex Smith. But this is the first time it felt like he's put on the ropes. I don't expect Andy Reid to say anything differently. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Chiefs make a bold move for a QB in the draft. Whether it's Dorsey or Ballard running the show.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	Think about what the Chiefs had to do to win this season and how fortunate they were. They had to have a ST's or defensive TD to be able to put up points. It was over 40% of our scoring output. The offense was terrible this year and has been for almost 2 years, and that's embarrassing seeing how much talent is here. The fact that the Chiefs lost 6 of their last 8 games to teams that only scored 19 or fewer points is a complete embarrassment. This team won 12 games with a QB who didn't score 20 TD's. It has a perfect formula for a new QB to step in at a much more efficient cost and a higher ceiling. The only thing the new QB has to do is take care of the ball. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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gold_and_red Veteran Join Date: Nov 2011 Casino cash: $9855412	I am not sure if Reid at his current career stage is patient enough to develop a shiny new QB. It could be a 3-4 year window until the results really start to show and even that only if the QB pans out. Think of all the pressure on him that screams 1 wildcard win in 8 years. He could go all in with Alex with the next 2 years in mind with the expectation to be let go if he doesn't get past the divisional round. I think his contract extension will tell a good story.
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