Chiefs Lucas Niang Injury Update Please! - Page 7

suzzer99 · 11-03-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I guess it wasn't entirely untrue. Niang had hip surgery toward the end of his last year in college. He had played through the injury for awhile but the pain got to be too much. So, if he had not opted out of his rookie year, the question would have been how long until he was ready to play. And the Chiefs were planning to play him a guard. If he can stay healthy and become a solid RT then this was probably the best thing for the Chiefs, IMO.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2020/08/...s-city-chiefs/

This. He wasn't going to be ready for most of his rookie year.

Also a not-good data point that the guy is just a brokedick.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 11-03-2022, 10:08 AM

Broke dick

tmax63 · 11-03-2022, 10:27 AM

Ding Ding Ding. The Chiefs knew he needed close to another year to recover from his surgery. By opting out it effectively gave him a redshirt year without using up a year of contract.

scho63 · 11-03-2022, 10:44 AM

He may get some snaps to knock the rust off.

Hoover · 11-03-2022, 11:02 AM

First, it's great that Niang is coming back. While I guess many here have seen enough, I think there is still time for him to turn into something. He's 24 years only and has two years remaining under his rookie contract after this season.

Now I don't think he's going to see much action unless there is an injury, which is fine. I just want him to stay healthy, practice, and make a run for the job in the offseason. We need him for depth badly.

Dunerdr · 11-03-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

First, it's great that Niang is coming back. While I guess many here have seen enough, I think there is still time for him to turn into something. He's 24 years only and has two years remaining under his rookie contract after this season.

Now I don't think he's going to see much action unless there is an injury, which is fine. I just want him to stay healthy, practice, and make a run for the job in the offseason. We need him for depth badly.

Only has two years left? Isnt that the benefit?

mabbott · 11-03-2022, 11:40 AM

PFF Niang vs Wylie

Before an injury cut his season short, Niang recorded a 79.5 overall grade, an 84.8 PFF pass-blocking grade and a 71.8 PFF run-blocking grade across 378 offensive snaps. In his three seasons with significant playing time, Niang never pushed his run-blocking grade above 75.7 (2018) or his pass-blocking grade above 86.3 (2018). Still, he never allowed more than 14 total pressures in any single season of his career and was called for just three total penalties across 1,982 career offensive snaps.

Wylie was graded at 67.2 for 2021 and is at 59.7.... so there is that

DJ's left nut · 11-03-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mabbott

PFF Niang vs Wylie

Before an injury cut his season short, Niang recorded a 79.5 overall grade, an 84.8 PFF pass-blocking grade and a 71.8 PFF run-blocking grade across 378 offensive snaps. In his three seasons with significant playing time, Niang never pushed his run-blocking grade above 75.7 (2018) or his pass-blocking grade above 86.3 (2018). Still, he never allowed more than 14 total pressures in any single season of his career and was called for just three total penalties across 1,982 career offensive snaps.

Wylie was graded at 67.2 for 2021 and is at 59.7.... so there is that

Um...according to what?

Because PFF shows:

64.6 overall, 59.1 pass blocking and 70.0 run blocking for Niang in 2021. Over 524 offensive snaps.

Something don't wash there.

mabbott · 11-03-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Um...according to what?

Because PFF shows:

64.6 overall, 59.1 pass blocking and 70.0 run blocking for Niang in 2021. Over 524 offensive snaps.

Something don't wash there.

The wording I took was from a google search and it was to his draft profile.

In other words, I failed to read the tab that the quote was from... my apologies.

jettio · 11-03-2022, 12:39 PM

Looks like the chiefs planet members that know not shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League are down on Lucas Niang.

Expect success for this young man playing tackle football in the National Football League.

It is like the dumbasses forgot that he had to switch to LT against Trey Hendrickson on an artificial turf field because Brown was worried about his calf in pregame warmups.

You have to not know shit about orthopedics and kinesiology to blame a player for a connective tissue injury.

htismaqe · 11-03-2022, 02:28 PM

They watch these guys practice every day. There's a lot more to this than just blind loyalty.

kccrow · 11-03-2022, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They watch these guys practice every day. There's a lot more to this than just blind loyalty.

I think there is a certain aspect to that in the offseason, but I'm not so sure when it comes to in-season changes.

For instance, he did start a rookie in Smith over LDT coming back last season and it's not like LDT was a slouch.

But... in season? We don't have a lot to work off of there. You look at how long they stuck with terrible players, especially on defense, and you scratch your head and wonder if its the same offensively.

htismaqe · 11-03-2022, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I think there is a certain aspect to that in the offseason, but I'm not so sure when it comes to in-season changes.

For instance, he did start a rookie in Smith over LDT coming back last season and it's not like LDT was a slouch.

But... in season? We don't have a lot to work off of there. You look at how long they stuck with terrible players, especially on defense, and you scratch your head and wonder if its the same offensively.

I'm not saying that Andy's loyalty is not an issue. It's just not THE issue, not in this case.

kccrow · 11-03-2022, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not saying that Andy's loyalty is not an issue. It's just not THE issue, not in this case.

I respectfully disagree 100% on this one and that's simply having watched Christian in the past and wanting KC to sign him for a couple of years. I think Christian is more than marginally better than Wylie.

If there's any argument that might be had, I firmly believe it's that Christian didn't have the playbook down early enough. At this point, I think it's 100% Andy wanting to maintain cohesiveness on the line.

htismaqe · 11-03-2022, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I respectfully disagree 100% on this one and that's simply having watched Christian in the past and wanting KC to sign him for a couple of years. I think Christian is more than marginally better than Wylie.

If there's any argument that might be had, I firmly believe it's that Christian didn't have the playbook down early enough. At this point, I think it's 100% Andy wanting to maintain cohesiveness on the line.

During the season, don't you think that's kind of prudent?

I mean the guy has been to multiple Super Bowls with 2 different teams but he evidently is a dumbass when it comes to offensive linemen.

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mabbott Starter Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: California Casino cash: $6680400	PFF Niang vs Wylie Before an injury cut his season short, Niang recorded a 79.5 overall grade, an 84.8 PFF pass-blocking grade and a 71.8 PFF run-blocking grade across 378 offensive snaps. In his three seasons with significant playing time, Niang never pushed his run-blocking grade above 75.7 (2018) or his pass-blocking grade above 86.3 (2018). Still, he never allowed more than 14 total pressures in any single season of his career and was called for just three total penalties across 1,982 career offensive snaps. Wylie was graded at 67.2 for 2021 and is at 59.7.... so there is that
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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4504930	Looks like the chiefs planet members that know not shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League are down on Lucas Niang. Expect success for this young man playing tackle football in the National Football League. It is like the dumbasses forgot that he had to switch to LT against Trey Hendrickson on an artificial turf field because Brown was worried about his calf in pregame warmups. You have to not know shit about orthopedics and kinesiology to blame a player for a connective tissue injury. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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