Trade for Danielle Hunter?

[kcbubb]

Price maybe a 2nd and 4th? Sounds too cheap?

https://vikingsterritory.com/2022/ge...edium=facebook

Two players for the Minnesota Vikings have chunky cap hits for the 2022 budget – Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter.

Cousins is a polarizing athlete, so the get-rid-of-him fodder is all over the internet. These are some teams Cousins might join if the Vikings actually trade their QB1. His $45 million cap hit is the obvious place to start for a team seeking to fix its underwater cap situation.


Trading Cousins would save $35 million in cap dollars for the 2022 season. New general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah may or may not trade Cousins. We shall see. When Minnesota rolled out its new head coach one week ago, it sure didn’t sound like Kevin O’Connell endorsed a Cousins trade.


Danielle Hunter
Dec 23, 2019; Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA; Minnesota Vikings defensive end Danielle Hunter. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports
Hunter is the other question mark. His cap hit in 2022 is $26 million, a steep figure for a player who missed 79% of all football games during the last two seasons. A healthy Hunter is a beastly productive player, setting the tone for a usually-good Vikings defense. Without Hunter, Minnesota’s defense stinks, guaranteed to collapse in the final two minutes of the 2nd Quarter and 4th Quarter. It’s like clockwork.


So, like Cousins, trading the expensive player elsewhere – Hunter, in this case – is on the docket for discussion. Should the Vikings invest megabucks in an EDGE rusher who plays 21% of the time? Probably not. However, Hunter’s injury history only began in 2020. Before that, he was durable.

Fans tend to believe Hunter would fetch a 1st-Round draft pick inside of a trade. The healthy version of the LSU alumnus probably would. Yet, per Pro Football Focus, the “1st-Round stuff” may be overstating value.

In an article by Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus detailing potential offseason trades, Hunter was sent to the Buffalo Bills – just like Stefon Diggs – for a substantially lower sum than 1st-Round draft capital.


Per Spielberger, Buffalo would send a 2nd-Rounder and 4th-Rounder to Minnesota for the 27-year-old Hunter. That trade package certainly isn’t insulting, but it is not the “1st-Rounder and change” some Vikings fans believe Hunter is worth. Spielberger wrote about the hypothetical trade:

“Hunter will still be just 27 years old in Week 1 of 2022 and is a force multiplier for any defense. The Bills used their first and second-round picks in 2021 on edge defenders Gregory Rousseau and Carlos Basham, but all three players can also kick inside and line up opposite guards. Hunter could be the final piece that puts the Bills’ roster over the edge. Last but not least, a reunion with former Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs could help ease the transition for Hunter to a new franchise. However, it could be too hard for Adofo-Mensah to “sell low” on an elite pass-rusher.”
Brad Spielberger | Pro Football Focus
It is unclear who is more likely to be traded, Cousins or Hunter. Cousins is durable. Hunter has been the antithesis of durable as of late. To a QB-needy team, Cousins likely commands a 1st-Rounder simply because his position is considered “more important” than the defensive line.

But if Hunter is the one traded, it is not a no-brainer for his trade value to send a 1st-Round pick in exchange to the Vikings. The conversation needs adjustment. To date, trading Hunter is perceived through a lens of snagging a 1st-Round draft choice – sometimes in the Top 10 spots.

Hunter is a fantastic football player who will spend 2022 trying to prove his injury maladies were outliers. If he departs the Vikings, a 1st-Rounder is not the bottom shelf for his trade value. Adjust your expectations.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Ok. If hunter didn’t injure his neck, say just his pectoral, would you be for trading for him? I’m just trying to understand how you look at it.

I actually probably would entertain it at that point.

A neck injury is a non-starter for me. That's all.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

A healthy Hunter compares better to Khalil Mack not frank clark. We could get a discount on Hunter bc of injury.

Who won the trade for Khalil Mack? Raiders or Bears?

Raiders ended up getting 2 1sts, a 6th and a 3rd. Josh Jacobs - , Damon Arnette (chiefs cut recently), Blessuan Austin and Bryan Edwards.

Bears got Mack, Coke Kmet (2nd) and Arlington Hambright (7th)

The Raiders sent Mack, a 2020 second-rounder [which became tight end Cole Kmet] and a 2020 seventh-rounder [Arlington Hambright] to the Bears. They got back the No. 24 pick in 2019, which they used on running back Josh Jacobs, a Pro Bowl pick last year; the No. 19 overall pick in 2020, cornerback Damon Arnette, who has started only seven times in two years and will miss Sunday’s game with groin injury; a 2019 sixth-round pick, cornerback Blessuan Austin, whom they sent to the Jets in a draft-day trade; and 2020 third-round pick Bryan Edwards, who has 11 catches for 204 yards this year.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/platfor...pace-deal-2018

Is Mack available?

[Skyy God]

I’d take him if the Vikes cut him.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

I’d take him if the Vikes cut him.

Depending on a physical, I would too.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Beach goes out and KILLS the draft and Chief Fan wants to burn significant capital this year on a guy that can't stay on the field?

Sounds about right.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I actually probably would entertain it at that point.

A neck injury is a non-starter for me. That's all.

I think that’s reasonable. Maybe I’m underestimating the risk of his neck injury. He just looked back to normal after the neck injury.

[TribalElder]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

https://youtu.be/As5Aix9Vflk

https://youtu.be/uMjp2CbXVt4

That highlight video is from the 90s it looked like

flacco in a ravens uniform

stafford with the lions

NFL is what have you done for me lately

The biggest impact this guy is having would be against the salary cap, we have enough of those already

[Halfcan]

His "highlights" look ancient.

Draft a pass rusher or two.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I think that’s reasonable. Maybe I’m underestimating the risk of his neck injury. He just looked back to normal after the neck injury.

Some guys are "normal" for a few months or even a full season and then it flares up again. He's basically playing on borrowed time at this point, that's why I don't want him.

[kcbubb]

Am I reading this right that if we traded for hunter and restructured his contract that he’d count less than $15M against the cap? Please go get this guy.

https://vikingsterritory.com/2022/ge...stablished/amp

Recent EDGE Rusher Trades
To determine a real trade value for Hunter, we need to evaluate recent trades. We also need to take into consideration his contract and injury history. Another thing to consider is the supply and demand of elite-level EDGE rushers, which is undoubtedly Hunter.

Today, the Bears traded away star EDGE rusher Khalil Mack for a 2nd rounder this year and 6th rounder next year:



While on the surface, it appears that Danielle Hunter is worth at least this much in trade. However, Hunter’s contract is much more team-friendly than Mack’s contract. The Chargers cap hits:

$17.75 million in 2022
$22.9 million in 2023
$23.25 million in 2024

Although there is no guaranteed money left on Mack’s contract, it is certainly worse than Hunter’s.

Danielle Hunter’s contract has two years remaining with an additional two void years. His cap hit is

$26.1 million in 2022
$8.6 million in 2023
$2.2 million in 2024 (void years)

This is easy for a potential trade partner to restructure or extend. Mack is also 31 compared to Hunter, who is 28, and both of them have had their injuries over the years.

With this in mind, an EDGE-desperate team, like the Texans, could offer a 2nd and 4th round this year. Whether this is enough compensation for the Vikings to move on from a star player like Hunter is debatable.

[kcbubb]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nielle-hunter/

The Vikings are shopping edge rusher Danielle Hunter as the clock ticks toward Sunday when he is owed an $18 million roster bonus, Ben Goessling of the Star Tribune reports.

Hunter has a $25.83 million cap number for 2022, and the team needs to clear space to make their new deals official.

The team could convert Hunter’s roster bonus to a signing bonus to save $13.5 million on their cap.

Hunter, 27, has played only seven games the past two seasons because of injuries. A torn pectoral muscle ended his 2021 season after seven games. He had six sacks.

Hunter has played 85 career games and totaled 60.5 sacks, 90 quarterback hits and six forced fumbles.

[kcbubb]

Chiefs wire says chiefs could be interested.

https://bringmethenews.com/.amp/minn...anielle-hunter

Report: Vikings trying to trade Danielle Hunter

Hunter is owed an $18 million roster bonus on Sunday.
BY CHRIS SCHAD

Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports
According to a report from the Star Tribune's Ben Goessling, the Minnesota Vikings are trying to trade defensive end Danielle Hunter.
The Vikings began the league year with approximately $256,000 in cap space but agreed to terms with nose tackle Harrison Phillips, tight end Johnny Mundt and guard Austin Schlottmann on Wednesday afternoon.
Despite releasing nose tackle Michael Pierce and creating $6.2 million in cap space, the Vikings need to find a way to clear more money in order to make those deals official.
Hunter becomes an easy target thanks to his $25.83 million cap hit next season. That includes an $18 million roster bonus due on Sunday. While Minnesota could convert that money into a roster bonus to save $13.5 million, the Vikings are reportedly looking to deal Hunter instead.

Hunter's injury history could play a key role in this decision. The 27-year-old has played in just seven games over the past two seasons and is coming off a torn pectoral muscle. But his track record may be too good for other teams to pass up.
His 60.5 sacks rank ninth all-time in franchise history according to Pro Football Reference and he collected six sacks in seven games last season. According to The Chiefs Wire's Charles Goldman, the Kansas City Chiefs could be a team interested in Hunter's services.

[The Franchise]

Could be doesn’t mean they are. Just means they need a DE and they’ve traded for one before.

Sooooooooo nothing.

[Balto]

Throw in Thielen

[Dunerdr]

Come on gang! ONLY 69k more posts and this guy gets traded to us for a 7th!