Chiefs Weiss to the Gators in 2011 (confirmed) - Page 76

Sure-Oz · 01:33 PM

ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

edit:link works

Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

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Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

RustShack · 01-01-2011, 11:38 PM

I think if Caserio is our OC, Haley will be the one who calls the plays on gameday.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-01-2011, 11:38 PM

Interesting BRC. I don't think we talked to the same guy because early on the texts I was getting was that no way was it happening and later on it was "well that took a different turn".

Caserio was the Patriots WR's coach in 2007. He's currently the director of pro personel (Pioli's old job). I'd be shocked if he left that to get back into coaching.

Olson's not a candidate. He's the assistant HC in Tampa. Mike Miller isn't an option either considering the lackluster offense this year in Az.

Again, as long as Crennel stays, we should be fine.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

here's what I know....or at least what has been emailed to me....

From the same media source that orginally told me Weiss coming was a done deal:

Root cause is control. Weiss does call all the plays on Sundays but Haley can overrule him. Haley and Weiss worked together to put together the weekly game plan. Weiss wants full control and final say. It's not really about he wants to do differently or he wanted to go one direction and Haley another. He just wants control of the job he's responsible.

Same one that told me Crennel was a done deal:
Weiss is gone, Done deal. Pioli tried to patch things up but the relationship and trust is broken. The only reason he stays to the end of the year is not to be a distraction for the team. Haley is ticked off because he gave Weiss everything he wanted this year when he agreed to accept the job.

#1 candidate for 2011 is Nick Caserio. Have no idea who this guy is or his coaching history, But a Google search looks like he's from the Pioli tree.

Caserio is a front office guy. He's the Patriots Director of player personnel. He's had only limited experience as a titled coach, although he's spent a lot of time helping with the coaching on a daily basis. Either your source misunderstood what was being said about Caserio or the Chiefs are willing to take a gamble.

Here's his bio:

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.c...rbio&bio=32456

**The Bad Guy** · 01-01-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Is there any head coach anywhere who can't overrule one of his coordinators in the course of a game? Still seems to me that there must be more to it than that.

I really believe that it has to do with Weis has never had to delegate to anyone with offense and he just doesn't think he can continue to do it.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-01-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

#1 candidate for 2011 is Nick Caserio. Have no idea who this guy is or his coaching history, But a Google search looks like he's from the Pioli tree.

just from memory isn't he the young guy who was a WR in college then became a QB coach in the pros. It would be a in-house promotion if I remember correctly

RustShack · 01-01-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

just from memory isn't he the young guy who was a WR in college then became a QB coach in the pros. It would be a in-house promotion if I remember correctly

Nope.

keg in kc · 01-01-2011, 11:40 PM

Maybe it would be a coordinator in name only situation, and Haley would go back to calling plays during the game. Caserio (or someone else...) could handle the OC duties during the week to help with his coaching load.

**pr_capone** · 01-01-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

just from memory isn't he the young guy who was a WR in college then became a QB coach in the pros. It would be a in-house promotion if I remember correctly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Caserio

As far as I see... he only did one year of coaching. He was a QB in college.

keg in kc · 01-01-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I really believe that it has to do with Weis has never had to delegate to anyone with offense and he just doesn't think he can continue to do it.

Another thought is that maybe Haley's been increasing his presence in terms of play calling as the season's gone on.

**BigRedChief** · 01-01-2011, 11:42 PM

Just in the inbox.....

Weiss will be officially announced on Monday at Florida.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Is there any head coach anywhere who can't overrule one of his coordinators in the course of a game? Still seems to me that there must be more to it than that.

If the head coach is calling 12-15 plays a game, which is what someone said Babb was claiming, he's stepping all over the O.C..

**Rain Man** · 01-01-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That would have to be some knife.

Todd would get it done even if it took a while. I have confidence in Todd.

keg in kc · 01-01-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Just in the inbox.....

Weiss will be officially announced on Monday at Florida.

Edel Weiss?

**The Bad Guy** · 01-01-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Another thought is that maybe Haley's been increasing his presence in terms of play calling as the season's gone on.

That very well could be. I just think it's a case of 2 alpha males not being able to let their guard down.

keg in kc · 01-01-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That very well could be. I just think it's a case of 2 alpha males not being able to let their guard down.

Gailey all over again, just took 21 weeks instead of 4.

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