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Old 09-04-2007, 04:33 PM  
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Oh, Herm...you really put your foot in it this time...
Well, this should be fun!

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Now, our offense will have to gel. Will it be a slow-starting? I don’t know. We haven’t played yet. I’ll answer that after we play. When we score seven points I’ll say we’re slow starting. If we score 21 points, I’ll say, ‘whoa, we scored a lot of points.’ 21 points is a lot, 30 points isn’t a football game. That’s Arena Football. We’re talking about real football.”
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:07 PM   #106
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He's catastrophically stupid.
I have said it many times, but not quite so eloquently.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:08 PM   #107
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We didn't have the tackles to run outside. We didn't have the tackles to do seven-step drops.

Herm did fine on offense last year given the talent we had to work with.
We also didn't have the guards and centers to run up the middle 500 times..didn't stop him.

Shields and Wiegmann always worked better in space.

I never said 7 step drops. I just didn't want a 65-35 run difference with no passes down the field and "opening it up" consisting of running quick slants.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:09 PM   #108
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Perhaps it is stupid. Why wouldn't a coach welcome 30+ points of offensive output AND a stingy defense? It almost seems like Edwards doesn't want the offense to produce.
This is why I think Willie Roaf retired, he didn't need Herm's shit.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:12 PM   #109
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I just didn't want a 65-35 run difference with no passes down the field and "opening it up" consisting of running quick slants.
The Chiefs ran a balanced offense last year. They called both passing and running plays about 50 percent of the time. And as I've already pointed out, the notion that they didn't throw the ball down the field is a MYTH.

You lose.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:13 PM   #110
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# of times a team scored 30 plus on KC in DV's last year = 3.
# of times a team scored 30 plus on KC last year = 3.
Did you forget about the 6 times it happened in 2004?

The 4 times it happened in 2003?

The 7 times it happened in 2002?
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:14 PM   #111
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The thing is..... he never was a NFL Coordinator IIRC.
Then somebody Peter Principled him to a HC job. Who was it?
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:16 PM   #112
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Then somebody Peter Principled him to a HC job. Who was it?
Andy Reid was never a coordinator. You want to crucify him, too? He's been to a Super Bowl.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:16 PM   #113
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The Chiefs ran a balanced offense last year. They called both passing and running plays about 50 percent of the time. And as I've already pointed out, the notion that they didn't throw the ball down the field is a MYTH.

You lose.
It was very predictable, more predictable than some high school and college teams I've seen, and as a professional team, you do lose.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:16 PM   #114
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Offenses are far to good now to think you are a legit championship contender scoring 20 a game.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:17 PM   #115
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The Chiefs ran a balanced offense last year. They called both passing and running plays about 50 percent of the time. And as I've already pointed out, the notion that they didn't throw the ball down the field is a MYTH.

You lose.
How many times do we have to point this out:

Balance in the NFL consists of about a 55-45 Pass-to-run ratio

The Chiefs passed 450 times last year, ran 513...we didn't get sacked 63 times, so you're off there.

Every division leader last year, save SD, passed a lot more than they ran.

You're FOS.
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Offenses are far to good now to think you are a legit championship contender scoring 20 a game.
I think that's where Hamas is mis-reading me.

I'm not saying scoring 16-20 is the goal for a Championship team.

But I am saying that if you can't STOP the other team from scoring 20 on average, you're NOT going to the Super Bowl, much less winning.

You can get by with an average offense and still win a Lombardi Trophy.

I can't think of a single team who won with a shitty defense......
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:21 PM   #117
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I think people forgot to tell Herm and some people who support him....the game isn't played like it was when he played any longer. It is no longer the 60's teams pass a lot now and do score points at high paces.
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:21 PM   #118
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Andy Reid was never a coordinator. You want to crucify him, too? He's been to a Super Bowl.
So what are you trying to say - that Herm is really Andy Reid?
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The Chiefs passed 450 times last year, ran 513...we didn't get sacked 63 times, so you're off there.
We were sacked 41 times. That means we called 491 passes. We ran 1004 plays. You do the math.

Certainly isn't 65-35.

I'll also point out that DV's Chiefs had nearly identical percentages in 2005, too.
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I think that's where Hamas is mis-reading me.

I'm not saying scoring 16-20 is the goal for a Championship team.

But I am saying that if you can't STOP the other team from scoring 20 on average, you're NOT going to the Super Bowl, much less winning.

You can get by with an average offense and still win a Lombardi Trophy.

I can't think of a single team who won with a shitty defense......
The Rams I guess, even though they ranked well that year it was more due to what the offense set up for them.

The Saints could easily break that though. That offense is stellar, it's dynamic and basically can't be defended. It's better and more talented than anything Vermiel ever had here.
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