Justifying Day Care

[bogie]

We have a family across the street from us with a lazy ass woman that has full time help at home so she can go to her bedroom and sleep or do whatever she wants to do other than raising her child. I have other friends that both work their ass off so they can live in a district that offers an excellent public school. They have one child in school and one preschool age. Their motivation is to stay in this district so both of their children can go to this great public school. Unless they are both working they simply can't afford to live in this area.

[Mr. Plow]

Maybe the ability for your children to go to the best schools? Get the best education? Have the clothes they need? Food? Shelter?

I think a career can give a lot in return.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Maybe the ability for your children to go to the best schools? Get the best education? Have the clothes they need? Food? Shelter?

I think a career can give a lot in return.

My kids are both dressed every day. They go to good schools, though the American education system is a f**king joke. We challenge them at home, by the time the school goes over something it's old hat to my kids. You don't need money for education in this country.

You'd also be surprised what you can feed and house your family on if you spend wisely.

Remember, "poor" does not equal cable TV, two mobile phones, two cars, a big screen, eating out 5+ times a week, buying the name brand at the store...

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

My kids are both dressed every day. They go to good schools, though the American education system is a f**king joke. We challenge them at home, by the time the school goes over something it's old hat to my kids. You don't need money for education in this country.

You'd also be surprised what you can feed and house your family on if you spend wisely.

Remember, "poor" does not equal cable TV, two mobile phones, two cars, a big screen, eating out 5+ times a week, buying the name brand at the store...

I don't disagree with you on this point. But feeding a husband, wife, 8 year old boy, 2 year old boy, 1 year old boy, and new born - due in September - costs quite a bit.

For some, earning say $300 a week, paying $250 in daycare, means you are able to "hold on" until the next paycheck.

[bogie]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

My kids are both dressed every day. They go to good schools, though the American education system is a f**king joke. We challenge them at home, by the time the school goes over something it's old hat to my kids. You don't need money for education in this country.

You'd also be surprised what you can feed and house your family on if you spend wisely.

Remember, "poor" does not equal cable TV, two mobile phones, two cars, a big screen, eating out 5+ times a week, buying the name brand at the store...

You are Gods gift to parenting. Congratulations on being perfect.

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Maybe the ability for your children to go to the best schools? Get the best education? Have the clothes they need? Food? Shelter?

I think a career can give a lot in return.

All material goods. People live happy, well adjusted lives without most of that. I had clothes and shelter and food without my mother working outside the house. She did as we got older, she always said it was to get some time away from me and my 3 siblings.

[Mr. Plow]

Not to mention the simple interaction with people other than mom & dad.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Not to mention the simple interaction with people other than mom & dad.

Oh yes, this is a very important feature for 1 and 2 year old children. The more the merrier, in fact it's a GOOD thing for infants and toddlers to see more of their daycare provider than their own parents.

Why don't people just come out and say that they wish their kids could have at least one of their parents home on a full time basis so they never had to use day care but they just can't afford it or aren't willing to make the sacrufuce and put in the effort that being full time parents requires?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Oh yes, this is a very important feature for 1 and 2 year old children. The more the merrier, in fact it's a GOOD thing for infants and toddlers to see more of their daycare provider than their own parents.

Why don't people just come out and say that they wish their kids could have at least one of their parents home on a full time basis so they never had to use day care but they just can't afford it or aren't willing to make the sacrufuce and put in the effort that being full time parents requires?

My 1 & 2 year old love playing with other kids. It's cool when I go pick them up and they are in the yard running around, chasing each other, laughing. Or riding on the like bikes. Brings a smile to my face at the end of a long day.

We are preparing for my wife to be at home with our newest child in September. 3 kids in daycare means spending more than she makes. It's just not logical anymore.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

My 1 & 2 year old love playing with other kids. It's cool when I go pick them up and they are in the yard running around, chasing each other, laughing. Or riding on the like bikes. Brings a smile to my face at the end of a long day.

We are preparing for my wife to be at home with our newest child in September. 3 kids in daycare means spending more than she makes. It's just not logical anymore.

I'm sure it's cool to drive up and see your little one's running and playing in someone else's yard.
Wait til you see how it feels to drive up and see them doing the same thing in their own yard.
Best wishes with your newest (and other two) child and to your wife as she makes the transition.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I'm sure it's cool to drive up and see your little one's running and playing in someone else's yard.
Wait til you see how it feels to drive up and see them doing the same thing in their own yard.

Christ. I give up. I'll just buy my kids some toys so that they can enjoy the tiny 17 hours a day that I give to them. At least I can enjoy some peace and quiet.

[bogie]

My Mother was a stay at home Mom and raised 6 wonderful children. One of them was me. I am very appreciative of that. That was in the 1950's 60's and 70's. It is a very different time now. Some are fortunate to have a life style that is the same as the 50's, some are not. Some of the people that opt to send their kids to daycare do it out of laziness, many do it ot of necessity. I don't know everyones story, but I choose not to generalize.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by bogie

My Mother was a stay at home Mom and raised 6 wonderful children. One of them was me. I am very appreciative of that. That was in the 1950's 60's and 70's. It is a very different time now. Some are fortunate to have a life style that is the same as the 50's, some are not. Some of the people that opt to send their kids to daycare do it out of laziness, many do it ot of necessity. I don't know everyones story, but I choose not to generalize.

There are some that do it out of laziness. I had one of them in my child's daycare. She didn't work until 10a or so, but brought the kids at 6:45a. The latest my daycare stays open is 6:30p or so, that's when she picked them up.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

There are some that do it out of laziness. I had one of them in my child's daycare. She didn't work until 10a or so, but brought the kids at 6:45a. The latest my daycare stays open is 6:30p or so, that's when she picked them up.

That is actually better for the child - to bring them in early rather than later. It provides more structure during the day.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

That is actually better for the child - to bring them in early rather than later. It provides more structure during the day.

You are correct. If the parents won't provide the structure, at least someone is.