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Old 09-09-2008, 07:27 AM   #1
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I've never seen the most important position the field get devalued like it does here.
Bring in the savy vet! Lets play for 9-7 and hope that we can make some noise in the playoffs!
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:34 AM   #2
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Bring in the savy vet! Lets play for 9-7 and hope that we can make some noise in the playoffs!
I don't think I've ever said that.....go tell one of the Huard people that one.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #3
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Would we have been in a better position now???

Rodgers would have gotten to learn from Trent Green a few years....

Hmmmm....thoughts to ponder.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft
No because we would not have the qB coach to teach him.. nor the coaches that would allow him to succeed..
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:03 PM   #4
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Derrick Johnson is one of the best 4-3 OLBs in football. He's far superior to Aaron Rodgers as a football player.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:06 PM   #5
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Derrick Johnson is one of the best 4-3 OLBs in football. He's far superior to Aaron Rodgers as a football player.
The first statement is true. The second statement is false. The Chiefs would be in a much better position right now. Are you watching Rodgers? He looks great tonight against one of the league's best defenses.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:08 PM   #6
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The first statement is true. The second statement is false. The Chiefs would be in a much better position right now. Are you watching Rodgers? He looks great tonight against one of the league's best defenses.
Minnesota does not have one of the league's best defenses. Their pass defense has been awful for years. Everyone assumed that Allen would fix it and so far he hasn't.

Rodgers has looked good and I'd probably rather have him than DJ, but one decent game against a poor pass defense doesn't mean all that much.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:20 AM   #7
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Heh. Allen was virtually non-existent against the Packers...I guess we might have gotten the better part of that deal after all...
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:24 AM   #8
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Would we have been in a better position now???

Rodgers would have gotten to learn from Trent Green a few years....

Hmmmm....thoughts to ponder.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft

Even though D. Johnson has been a dissappointment so far I would say no to Rodgers. The Queeefs would of been forced to throw him into the fire too soon and would of ruined his developement.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:56 AM   #9
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Bump....what the heck!
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:45 PM   #10
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Bump....

DJ sure looked good on that run defense today huh??
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:46 PM   #11
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Rodger is 16/19 for GB today...

Of course under Herm he'd probably just break all his bones.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:19 PM   #12
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Seen this thread a number of times, but I've put off commenting.

I like DJ, but if I could have Aaron Rogers the way he's playing, and knowing how badly we could use a QB like him right now, I might be inclined to take him instead of DJ.

However, who's to say had we taken Rogers that he'd be the QB he is today? Would he have gotten the coaching he needed to develope here? Would he have sit under and learn from one of the better QBs to ever play the game in KC? Would he have the OL and coaching staff here to allow him to play like he does in GB? I have to anser no to all those questions.

Hindsight is easy, but we have to remember the variables that influence a players ability. I don't think Aaron Rogers would be the QB he is today if we had drafted him instead of GB.


We have a good LB in DJ. With Aaron Rogers, we'd probably just have another QB we have already given up on.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:22 PM   #13
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Seen this thread a number of times, but I've put off commenting.

I like DJ, but if I could have Aaron Rogers the way he's playing, and knowing how badly we could use a QB like him right now, I might be inclined to take him instead of DJ.

However, who's to say had we taken Rogers that he'd be the QB he is today? Would he have gotten the coaching he needed to develope here? Would he have sit under and learn from one of the better QBs to ever play the game in KC? Would he have the OL and coaching staff here to allow him to play like he does in GB? I have to anser no to all those questions.

Hindsight is easy, but we have to remember the variables that influence a players ability. I don't think Aaron Rogers would be the QB he is today if we had drafted him instead of GB.


We have a good LB in DJ. With Aaron Rogers, we'd probably just have another QB we have already given up on.
DJ's average at best.

This mentality towards drafting QB's by both the Chiefs organization, their fans and the city is the main reason why the Chiefs haven't won a ****ing thing in 37 years.

The Chiefs should be drafting a QB every year or at least, every other year. Instead, they've drafted four first day QB's in 25 years.

That's why they suck and will continue to suck.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:25 AM   #14
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DJ's average at best.

This mentality towards drafting QB's by both the Chiefs organization, their fans and the city is the main reason why the Chiefs haven't won a ****ing thing in 37 years.

The Chiefs should be drafting a QB every year or at least, every other year. Instead, they've drafted four first day QB's in 25 years.

That's why they suck and will continue to suck.
Disagree.

I think DJ's average at worst. He has enormous upside but our terrible coaching is holding him back. His biggest problem by far is that he can't tackle. In 5 years, every one of Gun's defenses have sucked, sucked, sucked at tackling.

We've never seen what he can do without Gun. I'd love to see what he can do without a Gun. DJ is actually a pretty outstanding coverage LB and I'm sick of Gun's LBs constantly overpursuing plays. Maybe I'm naive, but I think a different coordinator could get a lot more out of a talented player like DJ.
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Disagree.

I think DJ's average at worst. He has enormous upside but our terrible coaching is holding him back. His biggest problem by far is that he can't tackle. In 5 years, every one of Gun's defenses have sucked, sucked, sucked at tackling.

We've never seen what he can do without Gun. I'd love to see what he can do without a Gun. DJ is actually a pretty outstanding coverage LB and I'm sick of Gun's LBs constantly overpursuing plays. Maybe I'm naive, but I think a different coordinator could get a lot more out of a talented player like DJ.
D.J. is talented, and that's about it. He doesn't take on blockers. He doesn't tackle well. He doesn't rush the QB well. and how many INTs does the great coverage LB have? Not to mention he constantly over pursues, and if he doesn't take himself out of the play, he gets swept out of th play. Coaching has a whole hell of a lot to do with it, but this is more of your homeristic coddling..
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