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**Tribal Warfare** · 09-18-2008, 04:42 AM

Why Thigpen Is Starting
September 17, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

The whole quarterback situation around the Chiefs has been pretty wacky and hard to understand.

And that’s if you are Herm Edwards.

His decision to start his third different quarterback in the season’s first three games speaks to more wackiness in the eyes of some fans and I’m sure the pundits.

Tyler Thigpen will replace Damon Huard who replaced Brodie Croyle as the starter against Atlanta. Huard’s start came because of Croyle’s injury. Thigpen’s start came because … it’s the right thing for Edwards and his coaching staff to do at this time.

Let’s break this down three ways and with three different views of the decision: this Sunday, short-term (the rest of the ‘08 season) and long-term (the future).

THIS SUNDAY

Doesn’t Huard give the Chiefs a better chance of winning in Atlanta than Thigpen? Maybe yes. Maybe no. Certainly his experience is a factor that can’t be ignored and he’s got that all over Thigpen.

But take a look at the Falcons and their defense. Atlanta has the NFL’s leading sacker after two games: defensive end John Abraham, who has four and now has 71.5 career sacks. That ranks him among the top seven sacks over the last eight seasons and two games. Plus, he’s playing at home and indoors on artificial turf. It’s a pass rusher’s dream situation.

Let’s be honest, if they move Abraham over to the left side and have him rush against RT Damion McIntosh, then whoever is playing quarterback for the Chiefs is in trouble. Better to have somebody with some mobility, who can get away from that kind of pressure. Huard can’t do that. Thigpen can.

Plus, that mobility allows the Chiefs to do more with their offensive game plan, especially with the bootlegs and nakeds that they’ve worked on all through the off-season and in training camp. Those are not things that Huard can do very well. Thigpen has a better chance to make them work.

THIS SEASON

In what Edwards hopes is the best case scenario, Croyle will return in two weeks, maybe three, and then start the remaining games in the ‘08 season.

The odds of that happening aren’t very good based on history, but a coach can dream, can’t he?

So this might be the only time Thigpen gets the chance to start and play. Edwards is determined to allow every player to get on the field and show what he has, so the coaching and personnel staffs can fairly evaluate what talent is in house.

If all goes well, this will be Thigpen’s only shot. Everyone knows what Huard can do. Some outside the team’s offices may have already made their decisions on Thigpen, but the decision makers want to see more. This is his chance.

THE FUTURE

The Chiefs will face a big decision, maybe the most important of this rebuilding project, when the ‘08 season is completed. That revolves around quarterback.

The team must make decisions at the end of this season on whether their quarterback is in house, or they need to go find him. When Croyle comes back, he’ll have 11 or 12 games to prove himself. To be fair, he probably needs more, but right now, that’s what he’s going to get. If he’s injured again, then his chances of sticking are pretty much gone.

If Thigpen can be any kind of factor or competition, he must play and show those skills.

His time is now.

Based on the track record of starting quarterbacks for Herm Edwards, Ingle Martin better make sure he’s ready to go.

**buddha** · 09-18-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Might as well tank as many games as possible. We might win with Huard in there.

Yeah...it's worked so well in the past. Look, none of us know at this point if Thiggy is a worthwhile investment at QB or not. We know Huard isn't. I hate to break it to some of you, but it's more important to find out about our youngsters at this point than stumbling along with DH or others like him, and hoping to eek out a stray victory or two (all we can expect from that approach).

The ONLY thing that Huard has over Thiggy is experience. It's time to see if we have a diamond in the rough, or just a hunk of coal. Where's the downside?

CoMoChief · 09-18-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

The ONLY thing that Huard has over Thiggy is experience. It's time to see if we have a diamond in the rough, or just a hunk of coal. Where's the downside?

Which is pretty much the MOST IMPORTANT thing about being a QB.

Huard has good touch and is more accurate than Thigpen.

JuicesFlowing · 09-18-2008, 03:52 PM

SO let's cut to the point: is Michael Turner going to have 400 or 500 yards rushing Sunday?

Brock · 09-18-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Which is pretty much the MOST IMPORTANT thing about being a QB.

Huard has good touch and is more accurate than Thigpen.

He should be. He's been playing for what, 12 years? You get better by playing, if you're going to get better at all.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-18-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Which is pretty much the MOST IMPORTANT thing about being a QB.

Huard has good touch and is more accurate than Thigpen.

WE KNOW WHAT HUARD CAN DO. Jesus. Huard is not the future of this franchise. There is absolutely no reason for him to play. Period.

Mizzou_8541 · 09-18-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

We've given up 8 sacks no matter who we've lined up behind center. 9 if you want to include Hagans getting TFL'ed. Thats a pace of 64 sacks this year.

Respectable....

triple · 09-18-2008, 04:34 PM

I am in favor of Croyle starting. If he's not healthy, then Thigpen. Maybe even Martin eventually.

At some point, if we're 3/4 through the year and it's bloody obvious they are both non-starters as NFL QBs, then whatever. Have Huard mop up the season.

I see the point that all these three play drives are not giving the young guys on offense enough experience. But developing a QB is the team's #1 priority and we should give that our best effort.

09-18-2008, 04:42 AM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2867187	Gretz: Why Thigpen Is Starting Why Thigpen Is Starting September 17, 2008 - Bob Gretz \| The whole quarterback situation around the Chiefs has been pretty wacky and hard to understand. And that’s if you are Herm Edwards. His decision to start his third different quarterback in the season’s first three games speaks to more wackiness in the eyes of some fans and I’m sure the pundits. Tyler Thigpen will replace Damon Huard who replaced Brodie Croyle as the starter against Atlanta. Huard’s start came because of Croyle’s injury. Thigpen’s start came because … it’s the right thing for Edwards and his coaching staff to do at this time. Let’s break this down three ways and with three different views of the decision: this Sunday, short-term (the rest of the ‘08 season) and long-term (the future). THIS SUNDAY Doesn’t Huard give the Chiefs a better chance of winning in Atlanta than Thigpen? Maybe yes. Maybe no. Certainly his experience is a factor that can’t be ignored and he’s got that all over Thigpen. But take a look at the Falcons and their defense. Atlanta has the NFL’s leading sacker after two games: defensive end John Abraham, who has four and now has 71.5 career sacks. That ranks him among the top seven sacks over the last eight seasons and two games. Plus, he’s playing at home and indoors on artificial turf. It’s a pass rusher’s dream situation. Let’s be honest, if they move Abraham over to the left side and have him rush against RT Damion McIntosh, then whoever is playing quarterback for the Chiefs is in trouble. Better to have somebody with some mobility, who can get away from that kind of pressure. Huard can’t do that. Thigpen can. Plus, that mobility allows the Chiefs to do more with their offensive game plan, especially with the bootlegs and nakeds that they’ve worked on all through the off-season and in training camp. Those are not things that Huard can do very well. Thigpen has a better chance to make them work. THIS SEASON In what Edwards hopes is the best case scenario, Croyle will return in two weeks, maybe three, and then start the remaining games in the ‘08 season. The odds of that happening aren’t very good based on history, but a coach can dream, can’t he? So this might be the only time Thigpen gets the chance to start and play. Edwards is determined to allow every player to get on the field and show what he has, so the coaching and personnel staffs can fairly evaluate what talent is in house. If all goes well, this will be Thigpen’s only shot. Everyone knows what Huard can do. Some outside the team’s offices may have already made their decisions on Thigpen, but the decision makers want to see more. This is his chance. THE FUTURE The Chiefs will face a big decision, maybe the most important of this rebuilding project, when the ‘08 season is completed. That revolves around quarterback. The team must make decisions at the end of this season on whether their quarterback is in house, or they need to go find him. When Croyle comes back, he’ll have 11 or 12 games to prove himself. To be fair, he probably needs more, but right now, that’s what he’s going to get. If he’s injured again, then his chances of sticking are pretty much gone. If Thigpen can be any kind of factor or competition, he must play and show those skills. His time is now. Based on the track record of starting quarterbacks for Herm Edwards, Ingle Martin better make sure he’s ready to go.
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JuicesFlowing Losing with passion. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oblivion Casino cash: $10004925	SO let's cut to the point: is Michael Turner going to have 400 or 500 yards rushing Sunday?
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09-18-2008, 04:34 PM	#112
triple Stop saying &quot;This.&quot; Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	I am in favor of Croyle starting. If he's not healthy, then Thigpen. Maybe even Martin eventually. At some point, if we're 3/4 through the year and it's bloody obvious they are both non-starters as NFL QBs, then whatever. Have Huard mop up the season. I see the point that all these three play drives are not giving the young guys on offense enough experience. But developing a QB is the team's #1 priority and we should give that our best effort.
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