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Ceej · 01-13-2009, 05:22 PM

Amidst this blessed day there's one more way to make it even more grand.

ROCK, CHALK, JAYHAWK.

KU by +7.

Lets keep this home streak going, fellas.

HolyHandgernade · 01-13-2009, 08:00 PM

This is a post I made at a Jayhawk board, but I'll repost here since the topic came up:

There's been some discussion about the freshman in general and the twins in particular about their competitive abilities. Some going so far as to call them "frauds" or that "they suck". So, I thought I would go through the life of Arizona's, Jordan Hill.

Rivals ranked him No. 86 out of high school, the No. 11 power forward.

Year GP-GS Min/Avg FG-FGA Pct FG-FGA Pct FT-FTA Pct Off-Def Tot Avg PF-FO Ast TO Blk Stl Pts/Avg

2006-07 29-12 409/14.1 58-89 .652 0-0 .000 21-47 .447 46-72 118 4.1 51-0 3 21 26 6 137/4.7

Freshman

2007-08 34-33 1001/29.4 184-297 .620 0-0 .000 82-120 .683 84-186 270 7.9 105-2 27 72 56 17 450/13.2

Sophmore

So far this season, Hill is averaging 12 rpg and 17.8 ppg

Junior

Look at the difference in body composition to go along with the experience of playing his third year of college ball. I wish people would quit coming down so hard on freshman. I think part of the problem has been the run of super talented freshman that have introduced themselves in the Big 12 with Durant and Beasley. Griffin might have been in that same category if not for injuries, and is proving it as a sophmore. But, please, try and remember, there's so much more to being a freshman than just the basketball side of things. Its a huge adjustment from which most teams try to bring along in doses, but due to early defections, we don't have said luxury. I predict, that in the coming years, people are going to be quite pleased that this group formed the nucleus of support that last year's seniors provided for some of their more talented underclassman.

We we're not going to win a national title this year folks. Instead of this constant assessment, just enjoy the experience of the learning curve. It will be frustrating at times, but the payoff could be huge. Self and his staff know how to develop players, know how to teach the game. Every student, no matter what subject, has a different learning curve, don't try and cookie cut these guys into your expectations for living vicariously through your sports teams. Its just not that important. If you can't enjoy the process, you are a fair weather fan. Remember when Russ Rob didn't want to get into a game as a freshman? Remember when DJ wanted to quit? Remember when people thought Sasha wouldn't be a productive post player because of his footwork? Don't rush the process, the payoff is not this year. Its fine to point out areas that need improvement, but let's try and avoid personal attacks that really don't say much about the players but more about your own frustration. Every player has their demon to conquer their freshman year, some demons linger longer, but Jayhawks don't quit. Don't quit too early on our young Hawks.

**Saulbadguy** · 01-13-2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

This is a post I made at a Jayhawk board, but I'll repost here since the topic came up:

There's been some discussion about the freshman in general and the twins in particular about their competitive abilities. Some going so far as to call them "frauds" or that "they suck". So, I thought I would go through the life of Arizona's, Jordan Hill.

Rivals ranked him No. 86 out of high school, the No. 11 power forward.

Year GP-GS Min/Avg FG-FGA Pct FG-FGA Pct FT-FTA Pct Off-Def Tot Avg PF-FO Ast TO Blk Stl Pts/Avg

2006-07 29-12 409/14.1 58-89 .652 0-0 .000 21-47 .447 46-72 118 4.1 51-0 3 21 26 6 137/4.7

Freshman

2007-08 34-33 1001/29.4 184-297 .620 0-0 .000 82-120 .683 84-186 270 7.9 105-2 27 72 56 17 450/13.2

Sophmore

So far this season, Hill is averaging 12 rpg and 17.8 ppg

Junior

Look at the difference in body composition to go along with the experience of playing his third year of college ball. I wish people would quit coming down so hard on freshman. I think part of the problem has been the run of super talented freshman that have introduced themselves in the Big 12 with Durant and Beasley. Griffin might have been in that same category if not for injuries, and is proving it as a sophmore. But, please, try and remember, there's so much more to being a freshman than just the basketball side of things. Its a huge adjustment from which most teams try to bring along in doses, but due to early defections, we don't have said luxury. I predict, that in the coming years, people are going to be quite pleased that this group formed the nucleus of support that last year's seniors provided for some of their more talented underclassman.

We we're not going to win a national title this year folks. Instead of this constant assessment, just enjoy the experience of the learning curve. It will be frustrating at times, but the payoff could be huge. Self and his staff know how to develop players, know how to teach the game. Every student, no matter what subject, has a different learning curve, don't try and cookie cut these guys into your expectations for living vicariously through your sports teams. Its just not that important. If you can't enjoy the process, you are a fair weather fan. Remember when Russ Rob didn't want to get into a game as a freshman? Remember when DJ wanted to quit? Remember when people thought Sasha wouldn't be a productive post player because of his footwork? Don't rush the process, the payoff is not this year. Its fine to point out areas that need improvement, but let's try and avoid personal attacks that really don't say much about the players but more about your own frustration. Every player has their demon to conquer their freshman year, some demons linger longer, but Jayhawks don't quit. Don't quit too early on our young Hawks.

Dude, you are pretty weird.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Why are you expecting so much out of the freshman? I think we'll be quite pleased with them down the road.

-HH

Who said I was expecting "much?"

I just want to see "something." That's it. I just need a sign that they have some kind of basketball sense.

ArrowheadHawk · 01-13-2009, 08:04 PM

Not a bad half. I especially liked the first 10 minutes. Can we hold onto this lead?

DJay23 · 01-13-2009, 08:06 PM

Just got home and don't feel like reading through 7 pages of game chatter and I can't get the game on TV. How does Little look? Did he start? I see he is 3/4 shooting, that's encouraging at least.

HolyHandgernade · 01-13-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Dude, you are pretty weird.

You have no idea.

**Skip Towne** · 01-13-2009, 08:07 PM

Start working on the 2-DVD set.

HolyHandgernade · 01-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who said I was expecting "much?"

I just want to see "something." That's it. I just need a sign that they have some kind of basketball sense.

I've seen improvement in their aggressiveness going to the rim for rebounds.

Craqhead · 01-13-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Not a bad half. I especially liked the first 10 minutes. Can we hold onto this lead?

We should be able too hold on...

**Lzen** · 01-13-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

MANHATTAN, Kan. | The Kansas State players file into their locker room during halftime seven days before the start of Big 12 play, laughing, slapping each other’s backs, soaking in the good feelings of an 18-point lead over another easy opponent.

Jacob Pullen lounges in his black padded chair, talking to the guys around him.........

Hey, get that shit out of here. This is a KU game thread.

Oh.....wait......nm.

**Lzen** · 01-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23

Just got home and don't feel like reading through 7 pages of game chatter and I can't get the game on TV. How does Little look? Did he start? I see he is 3/4 shooting, that's encouraging at least.

I would say that Little is starting to look like the guy we expected. I think once he gets to full health and gets better chemistry with the team, he will make this team better for sure.

**Saulbadguy** · 01-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Finally, signs of life.

Reerun_KC · 01-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Well Typical young KU. no lead is safe...

kstater · 01-13-2009, 08:18 PM

**Skip Towne** · 01-13-2009, 08:18 PM

Memphis - Tulsa is on TV and KU - KSU isn't. What a kick in the bag.

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HolyHandgernade Integralist Join Date: May 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Casino cash: $10006370	This is a post I made at a Jayhawk board, but I'll repost here since the topic came up: There's been some discussion about the freshman in general and the twins in particular about their competitive abilities. Some going so far as to call them "frauds" or that "they suck". So, I thought I would go through the life of Arizona's, Jordan Hill. Rivals ranked him No. 86 out of high school, the No. 11 power forward. Year GP-GS Min/Avg FG-FGA Pct FG-FGA Pct FT-FTA Pct Off-Def Tot Avg PF-FO Ast TO Blk Stl Pts/Avg 2006-07 29-12 409/14.1 58-89 .652 0-0 .000 21-47 .447 46-72 118 4.1 51-0 3 21 26 6 137/4.7 Freshman 2007-08 34-33 1001/29.4 184-297 .620 0-0 .000 82-120 .683 84-186 270 7.9 105-2 27 72 56 17 450/13.2 Sophmore So far this season, Hill is averaging 12 rpg and 17.8 ppg Junior Look at the difference in body composition to go along with the experience of playing his third year of college ball. I wish people would quit coming down so hard on freshman. I think part of the problem has been the run of super talented freshman that have introduced themselves in the Big 12 with Durant and Beasley. Griffin might have been in that same category if not for injuries, and is proving it as a sophmore. But, please, try and remember, there's so much more to being a freshman than just the basketball side of things. Its a huge adjustment from which most teams try to bring along in doses, but due to early defections, we don't have said luxury. I predict, that in the coming years, people are going to be quite pleased that this group formed the nucleus of support that last year's seniors provided for some of their more talented underclassman. We we're not going to win a national title this year folks. Instead of this constant assessment, just enjoy the experience of the learning curve. It will be frustrating at times, but the payoff could be huge. Self and his staff know how to develop players, know how to teach the game. Every student, no matter what subject, has a different learning curve, don't try and cookie cut these guys into your expectations for living vicariously through your sports teams. Its just not that important. If you can't enjoy the process, you are a fair weather fan. Remember when Russ Rob didn't want to get into a game as a freshman? Remember when DJ wanted to quit? Remember when people thought Sasha wouldn't be a productive post player because of his footwork? Don't rush the process, the payoff is not this year. Its fine to point out areas that need improvement, but let's try and avoid personal attacks that really don't say much about the players but more about your own frustration. Every player has their demon to conquer their freshman year, some demons linger longer, but Jayhawks don't quit. Don't quit too early on our young Hawks. __________________ You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go, just remember, the last laugh is on you, and always look on the bright side of life!
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DJay23 Rock Chalk Jayhawk Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Casino cash: $-386683	Just got home and don't feel like reading through 7 pages of game chatter and I can't get the game on TV. How does Little look? Did he start? I see he is 3/4 shooting, that's encouraging at least. __________________ "True bliss is not something you search for, true bliss is already living inside us all, and sometimes it takes a roomfull of others to lead us to the mirror of your soul." - CosmicPal (10-3-03)
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