Chiefs Cassel or Sanchez? - Page 8

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 06:45 PM

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:47 PM

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Derek Anderson?

they are different people, i would throw out the player that came out with 16 starts at qb that busted but cant think of one that was even drafted high

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:47 PM

Albert was said to be the best OG since Steve Hutchinson, but you don't want to pay the man? Hes not going to get paid like he would if he hits the open market... players give their teams discounts and Albert will do so if he wants to be a Chief no matter what the position. Albert comes of as a team player, and not a selfish player to me. I don't think hes going to have a bitch fit if the team upgrades the Oline position.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 04-11-2009, 07:48 PM

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Why? What is your reasoning here?

A big reason is you don't have a franchise guy that needs to play from the gun to look good. He reminds me of a more accurate Tyler Thigpen.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:48 PM

If you more than anything think the Chiefs need an OT, make the argument to trade down into the teens and draft Michael Oher while picking up a bunch of picks. That makes more sense he doesn't get paid a ton and you get alot of other picks.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:48 PM

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You don't set yourself up to lose a guy after 1 contract, it's a long term failure read my other post.

Well if Albert is a selfish player like you make him out to be, I doubt Pioli keeps him around anyways.

**Reaper16** · 04-11-2009, 07:48 PM

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So how do you know Monroe is better than Albert? They didn't believe that in college and teams last year didn't seem to believe Albert was this god you are claiming otherwise he would have been drafted #1 overall, not #15...

1.) Albert was moved to guard at UVA because Monroe's skillset was suited for LT only. Albert was the more versatile of the two, so it was Albert that was moved. UVA needed both of those talents on the field at the same time, and Monroe could only be used profitably at LT.

2.) Oh, c'mon. You're not actually serious with that second point are you?

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you more than anything think the Chiefs need an OT, make the argument to trade down into the teens and draft Michael Oher while picking up a bunch of picks. That makes more sense he doesn't get paid a ton and you get alot of other picks.

then the bookends(or lt lg) are paid similar. both are affordable

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Albert was said to be the best OG since Steve Hutchinson, but you don't want to pay the man? Hes not going to get paid like he would if he hits the open market... players give their teams discounts and Albert will do so if he wants to be a Chief no matter what the position. Albert comes of as a team player, and not a selfish player to me. I don't think hes going to have a bitch fit if the team upgrades the Oline position.

He played a season at OT if you think he won't play every card he can to get the biggest contract he can, you're crazy. Every team in the league had him on their board as an OT that means he's views as an OT and will expect to be paid like one...

You set yourself up for failure because guess what, he'll go to a team that will pay him as a LT.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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I'm slightly confused, you say Monroe and Smith are a lot better than Long last year... Long along with a few other LT's were better prospects than Albert, but Albert is better than Monroe and Smith? Interesting.

It's like this Albert has better feet than both, and has more potential at this stage of his young career.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you more than anything think the Chiefs need an OT, make the argument to trade down into the teens and draft Michael Oher while picking up a bunch of picks. That makes more sense he doesn't get paid a ton and you get alot of other picks.

Why it would be the same thing, he knows he can play LT and would want paid like one. You thought he was a better prospect that Long last year, making him a better prospect than Albert, but you don't want him playing LT? Or are you advocating moving Albert going against everything you've been saying? Either way thats setting the team up for long term failure.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 04-11-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Albert was said to be the best OG since Steve Hutchinson, but you don't want to pay the man? Hes not going to get paid like he would if he hits the open market... players give their teams discounts and Albert will do so if he wants to be a Chief no matter what the position. Albert comes of as a team player, and not a selfish player to me. I don't think hes going to have a bitch fit if the team upgrades the Oline position.

He knows he can play the most important position on the line. I believe he will want to keep playing that position. He worked hard to do what he did last year, why change what works?

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well if Albert is a selfish player like you make him out to be, I doubt Pioli keeps him around anyways.

Selfish player?

You don't think he's gonna try to get the most money he can when his contract is up? That doesn't make him selfish it makes him a person with a ****ing brain.

And yes I'm sure Pioli hates the best offensive lineman on the team, just scrap him.

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well if Albert is a selfish player like you make him out to be, I doubt Pioli keeps him around anyways.

WHOA no one has said selfish(except you) players(and their agents) look out for their selves usually the player that gives the "discount" is a plyer that is on his 3rd contract for a GOOD/GREAT team

**the Talking Can** · 04-11-2009, 07:51 PM

i haven't read the thread yet, but i'll take a wild guess that the subject and comments are fresh and original?

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:51 PM

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Why it would be the same thing, he knows he can play LT and would want paid like one. You thought he was a better prospect that Long last year, making him a better prospect than Albert, but you don't want him playing LT? Or are you advocating moving Albert going against everything you've been saying? Either way thats setting the team up for long term failure.

You are literally being reeruned tonight...

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