Chiefs Why you should be scared... - Page 8

jwhit · 11-08-2009, 05:01 PM

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He makes horrendous gameday decisions...worse than Herm decisions.

He clearly doesn't know what to do in this situation. First time head coach for a terrible football team and he started calling plays a week before the regular season started. He's in way over his head. I will flip the **** out if he tries this shit again next year.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I don't think they are worse than Herms at all. Especially the Pre-Thigpen/Gailey/Gimmick Herm.

Oh yes they are, he's made a ton of boneheaded 4th down calls.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 06:33 PM

Saying that Todd Haley makes worse decisions than Herm is just downright ****ing laughable.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 06:33 PM

You are essentially comparing a coach who had 6 years of experience as a HC compared to a guy in his 8th game.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:34 PM

I don't think a 12 year old playing Madden would do some of the shit I've seen Haley do...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-08-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Whitlock with a whole lot of heresay as usual.

We get it. You have an agenda. You don't like the way Haley and Pioli do things. However, your track record of backing players, and coaches, why is anyone putting any stock in your opinion?

It's amazing how some of you, who flame Whitlock's posts, are lining up to perform message board hummers on him because he posts on here.

Knowing you hate Pioli and Haley is almost enough for me to rally behind them.

Did Jeff George, Ty Law, or Chester McGlockton ever give you any kickbacks?

Dude, two days ago you were all like "I'm leaving the Chiefs if they play LJ".
Granted things went your way, but you've expressed multiple disappointments in these guys as well.

And I'm curious; what exactly IS "the agenda"? To brow beat the regime until they grant him access? I don't think that will work, and I don't think HE thinks it will work either.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-08-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I think he'd flip out if they just told him that it's not an option, but I think he's already decided he doesn't want to do it next year. It's just too much work for a guy that is just learning the job.

I really think Haley will be a good coach. I think he's learning, and I've expected all of this. I hated this hire when it went down, but I do like some of the tactics he's taking.

I know I'm in the minority on this but I love the fact that he's cussing guys out. ****ing perform. And if you can't, get the **** out. When he has guys that will perform, he'll stop yelling and cussing.

I think he'd flip out of the soda machine gave him lemon-lime instead of grape.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You are essentially comparing a coach who had 6 years of experience as a HC compared to a guy in his 8th game.

And that right there is why Haley isn't as bad as Herm. Haley is also more in over his head than Herm ever was IMO. Haley is making some oddball calls at times, but Herm..............

How funny is it that Herm is a typo in firefox when spelled correctly.

booger · 11-08-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Collier has a defensive background I thought, shoot myself if its Carthon, I don't think Weis would be bad, and Davidson I don't know about.

Collier has a background on both O and D. He coached DB's in NE. LB and RB in Miami and was promoted to OC by Wannstedt but had an illness that offseason they didn't explain further just promoted the TE coach(i think) instead.

In a situation other than a Weiss type hire, it's still gonna be Haley's offense IMO. That's why he may give the tital too but not completely turn the rains over if he does promote within or get someone inexperinced as a play caller.

More important is DC imo. Crennel would be ideal.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-08-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He makes horrendous gameday decisions...worse than Herm decisions.

Now you are just being stupid. None of us are happy about this team, but you take bitching to an all-time high.

Here, end it all! No, wait that rope is new, you would still bitch...

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:46 PM

Really you don't think he makes bad decisions?

Who kicks a fg then does an onside kick in the middle of a game? Why are you going for it on 4th down down by a score or tied in the 1st half?

**1ChiefsDan** · 11-08-2009, 06:47 PM

wow - you did it. You wrote something even more moronic than your columns.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-08-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Really you don't think he makes bad decisions?

Who kicks a fg then does an onside kick in the middle of a game? Why are you going for it on 4th down down by a score or tied in the 1st half?

If the players execute those plays, its a completely differently story. I dont question those decisions, but I do question some playcalling.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:52 PM

There's a difference in being aggressive and being reeruned.

|Zach| · 11-08-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

wow - you did it. You wrote something even more moronic than your columns.

What exactly is moronic about that post?

11-08-2009, 05:01 PM
jwhit Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $9994990	Why you should be scared... Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games. Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster. Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there. Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games. 22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.
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11-08-2009, 06:46 PM	#116
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	Really you don't think he makes bad decisions? Who kicks a fg then does an onside kick in the middle of a game? Why are you going for it on 4th down down by a score or tied in the 1st half?
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	There's a difference in being aggressive and being reeruned.
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