Chiefs I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... - Page 8

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

No. He has not. The games we won were in spite of him. We would have the exact same record if Croyle was QB. Possibly better.

You can't say he didn't play well enough to win a game if we actually won it. Don't be ridiculous.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

You can't say he didn't play well enough to win a game if we actually won it. Don't be ridiculous.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-17-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Our defense has played well enough this year that we could be 7-2.

They let the Texans game slip away by not being able to get a stop in the 4th. All it took was one and they gave up 4 straight TD's. They were torched in Denver. They allowed Jason Cambell to not only lead a drive to tie the game, but win the game with a big throw in OT. A couple defensive stops in crunch time and they are 7-2.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Our defense has played well enough this year that we could be 7-2.

But we aren't and that's the rub for most of you. You get what you get, and this team is just not really ready for prime time, that's the facts of life here. We are doing better now than the past 2 or 3 years. The team is looking to take steps to get better each year.

Should we get better and get through the playoffs are you all still going to hammer Cassel if he is the QB?

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Should we get better and get through the playoffs are you all still going to hammer Cassel if he is the QB?

No, because if we win a couple playoff games, that means Cassel would not be starting.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

No, because if we win a couple playoff games, that means Cassel would not be starting.

You can't bet on that. Cassel isn't as bad as you guys want to think. He is following the game plan.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You can't bet on that. Cassel isn't as bad as you guys want to think. He is following the game plan.

He's not nearly as good as you think, either.

Hammock Parties · 11-17-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Should we get better and get through the playoffs are you all still going to hammer Cassel if he is the QB?

Cassel will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Cassel will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

Wanna put a bet on that?

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Cassel will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

You up to the bet? How about if Chiefs win a playoff game while Cassel is starting, you take a one year ban from CP... But it has to be a ban by the mods... Otherwise you would just welch like a little bitch...

And if the Chiefs never win a playoff game while Cassel is the QB, I will take a one year Mod ban....

Lets see how confident you are... Lets see you put your confidence where your man pleaser is...

Hammock Parties · 11-17-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You up to the bet? How about if Chiefs win a playoff game while Cassel is starting, you take a one year ban from CP... But it has to be a ban by the mods... Otherwise you would just welch like a little bitch...

I'm so confident in the fact that Cassel won't win a playoff game in Kansas City, that I don't even need you to put up anything.

Besides, I enjoy your posts too much.

If Cassel wins a playoff game with the Chiefs, ban my ass for a year.

Micjones · 11-17-2010, 09:39 AM

There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel.
It's either extreme right or extreme left.

There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target.
The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate?

Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long.

I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it...
And praise him when he deserves it.

QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week.
It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely.

I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely.

He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year.

He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's.
And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You up to the bet? How about if Chiefs win a playoff game while Cassel is starting, you take a one year ban from CP... But it has to be a ban by the mods... Otherwise you would just welch like a little bitch...

And if the Chiefs never win a playoff game while Cassel is the QB, I will take a one year Mod ban....

Lets see how confident you are... Lets see you put your confidence where your man pleaser is...

I think you need to be specific on the bet. What if the Chiefs win in the playoffs but it's a special teams TD that wins it? I would be specific enough to say that the Chiefs win a playoff game with Cassel as the starting QB. Otherwise there is wiggle room.

Chiefnj2 · 11-17-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Cassel will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

This defense will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

This wide receiving group will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

It's a TEAM SPORT.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This defense will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

This wide receiving group will never win a playoff game in Kansas City.

It's a TEAM SPORT.

It could with a very good QB.

11-17-2010, 09:39 AM	#12
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel. It's either extreme right or extreme left. There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target. The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate? Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long. I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it... And praise him when he deserves it. QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week. It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely. I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely. He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year. He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's. And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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