Chiefs trade scenario?

kcbubb · 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.

Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454

milkman · 04-19-2011, 08:43 AM

Dumbass.

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Dumbass.

warrior · 04-19-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Dumbass.

Seen it coming but still had to laugh.

Fish · 04-19-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Dumbass.

Why did this thread not end right here... with the above post?

Seriously....

**the Talking Can** · 04-19-2011, 08:44 AM

i'm going to kill myself

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.

Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454

Just 1 very small problem........ Without a CBA in place you can't trade players only draft picks.

milkman · 04-19-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just 1 very small problem........ Without a CBA in place you can't trade players only draft picks.

Why'd you have to go and tell him?

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Why'd you have to go and tell him?

I had to give him partial credit because I like the idea of moving up for Jones.

**MahiMike** · 04-19-2011, 08:46 AM

I love Julio too but that price is too high.

siberian khatru · 04-19-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

I love Julio too but that price is too high.

Dante84 · 04-19-2011, 08:46 AM

This is the worst thing I've ever read on this website, and that's saying A LOT.

**The Franchise** · 04-19-2011, 09:16 AM

You need to be taken out into a dark alley and beat.

**The Franchise** · 04-19-2011, 09:34 AM

Here is the one problem (other than the fact that it's dumb and you can't trade players).

The Vikings have a bigger need for a DE than a DT. Even if they wanted Dorsey.....he plays the same position as Kevin Williams. So if they're looking for a DT to replace Pat Williams.....it's going to be a big run stuffer.....not Dorsey.

milkman · 04-19-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Here is the one problem (other than the fact that it's dumb and you can't trade players).

The Vikings have a bigger need for a DE than a DT. Even if they wanted Dorsey.....he plays the same position as Kevin Williams. So if they're looking for a DT to replace Pat Williams.....it's going to be a big run stuffer.....not Dorsey.

The OP was so full of fail, there was no way I was going to address each fail.

I think my initial response just about covers it all.

04-19-2011, 08:38 AM	Topic Starter
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5166719	Chiefs trade scenario? Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early. I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out. If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him. For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance. Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling. Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit. I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey. Go get one the best athletes in this draft! http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2095047	Here is the one problem (other than the fact that it's dumb and you can't trade players). The Vikings have a bigger need for a DE than a DT. Even if they wanted Dorsey.....he plays the same position as Kevin Williams. So if they're looking for a DT to replace Pat Williams.....it's going to be a big run stuffer.....not Dorsey.
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