Chiefs Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games - Page 8

**doomy3** · 12-20-2011, 11:19 AM

This could very well be a repost, so I apologize in advance if it is. I didn't see it anywhere on the first page unless it's mixed in on another thread. Pretty interesting that Crennel has come out and said this already IMO.

Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs' 2012 starter if he wins the final two games.
There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent, and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April. Dec 20 - 8:59 AM
Source: Kansas City Star

http://dev.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton

teedubya · 12-20-2011, 08:29 PM

Step 1. Sign Orton.
Step 2. Cut Cassel.
Step 3. Kick Cassel in the nuts.
Step 4. ???
Step 5. Profit!

stonedstooge · 12-20-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Do you believe Orton is a Huge upgrade over Cassel? I certainly do.

I don't think anyone here believes Orton is going to lead this or any team to a SB win.

What is worth debating is if Orton should be retained for next season.

IMO, Pioli will not draft a QB high, or even attempt to deal to move up to do so.

I believe he thinks Stanzi is the guy.

Thinks he hit his Tom Brady on his first try? Sweet

Reerun_KC · 12-20-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Do you believe Orton is a Huge upgrade over Cassel? I certainly do.

I don't think anyone here believes Orton is going to lead this or any team to a SB win.

What is worth debating is if Orton should be retained for next season.

IMO, Pioli will not draft a QB high, or even attempt to deal to move up to do so.

I believe he thinks Stanzi is the guy.

You serious?

I think you believed that Stanzi was the guy, but the Chiefs dont, otherwise he would have praticed and played this year...

I believe you are speculating without out facts from Pioli himself...

Dexter Manley · 12-20-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

In 1972 they did.

Not in today's game

Did Trent Dilfer win the Super Bowl, or did the Ravens?

Jake Delhomme, Rex Grossman...

you can get to the Super Bowl with a terrible QB...

Peyton Manning is a bit different with the Colts. Indeed, clearly, the data is "in" on that score...

My favorite - Jeff Hostetler - clearly he won the Super Bowl, and Lawrence Taylor and the NYG D had nothing to do with it...

whoman69 · 12-20-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You serious?

I think you believed that Stanzi was the guy, but the Chiefs dont, otherwise he would have praticed and played this year...

I believe you are speculating without out facts from Pioli himself...

Brady didn't get off the inactive list his first year either.

I have my doubts Pioli will go high for a QB either for the reason that he wants to have an experienced QB under center.

Reerun_KC · 12-20-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Brady didn't get off the inactive list his first year either.

I have my doubts Pioli will go high for a QB either for the reason that he wants to have an experienced QB under center.

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

whoman69 · 12-20-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie

Did Trent Dilfer win the Super Bowl, or did the Ravens?

Jake Delhomme, Rex Grossman...

you can get to the Super Bowl with a terrible QB...

Peyton Manning is a bit different with the Colts. Indeed, clearly, the data is "in" on that score...

My favorite - Jeff Hostetler - clearly he won the Super Bowl, and Lawrence Taylor and the NYG D had nothing to do with it...

They didn't make the defenses so impotent with the rules back then. An average or below average QB is not going to get the job done anymore.

whoman69 · 12-20-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

I didn't say that at all. I'd like for him to get a shot to prove what we have. He won't prove or disprove that from the bench. IMO Pioli is following his recipe from what happened with Brady.

stonedstooge · 12-20-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

In Pioli's mind

Dexter Manley · 12-20-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

They didn't make the defenses so impotent with the rules back then. An average or below average QB is not going to get the job done anymore.

No doubt the rule changes, especially for DBs, make it easier for QBs.

A great defense still shuts out a lot of teams.

The real point is that our current interim head coach should never imply

TEAM = just QB

and hopefully he won't make that mistake again.

Dexter Manley · 12-20-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

In Pioli's mind

Wasn't Cassel the "next Brady?"

whoman69 · 12-20-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbie

No doubt the rule changes, especially for DBs, make it easier for QBs.

A great defense still shuts out a lot of teams.

The real point is that our current interim head coach should never imply

TEAM = just QB

and hopefully he won't make that mistake again.

The last three years the organization has been saying we can get by with just an average QB (that may be an upgrade from reality). I hope the organization won't make that mistake again.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-20-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You serious?

I think you believed that Stanzi was the guy, but the Chiefs dont, otherwise he would have praticed and played this year...

I believe you are speculating without out facts from Pioli himself...

Duh. Of course its speculation.

I don't know what Stanzi is.

Reerun_KC · 12-20-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Duh. Of course its speculation.

I don't know what Stanzi is.

Okay... I was just messing with you...

Dexter Manley · 12-20-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

The last three years the organization has been saying we can get by with just an average QB (that may be an upgrade from reality). I hope the organization won't make that mistake again.

Average may be overly kind...

12-20-2011, 11:19 AM
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3343539	Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games This could very well be a repost, so I apologize in advance if it is. I didn't see it anywhere on the first page unless it's mixed in on another thread. Pretty interesting that Crennel has come out and said this already IMO. Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs' 2012 starter if he wins the final two games. There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent, and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April. Dec 20 - 8:59 AM Source: Kansas City Star http://dev.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton
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12-20-2011, 08:29 PM	#106
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9003042	Step 1. Sign Orton. Step 2. Cut Cassel. Step 3. Kick Cassel in the nuts. Step 4. ??? Step 5. Profit!
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