Chiefs I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. - Page 8

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-03-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I keep hoping for a scenario in practice where they run out of footballs and call over to the kickers to get one. Ryan Succop then casually rockets a ball 70 yards into the hands of a waiting Dwayne Bowe, never realizing that his arm is even more talented than his foot.

Hey , do you remember when our punter threw a 50 yard pass disquised as a punt and our reciever caught it in front of the punt returner . Aguilari , thats who it was I think. It was the greatest trick play evar !

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-03-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

All during the offseason, I was hoping to get either Quinn or Stanzi some reps with the #1's. Didn't happen. Even in drills as far as I can tell. Never did hear of either one making a pass to the top receivers.

We had to have the preliminary QB competition between Quinn and Stanzi. Did the right guy win? Honestly, I do not know.

But I do know this. After only a couple of practices with the #1's... and probably very limited reps at that... Quinn looked pretty damn good when given the opportunity to play with the first string Thursday. Some obvious chemistry/timing issues, but those are to be expected. At least by me.

The ball went were it should have every single time... except one... but that was more on the O-line IMO. Split second longer with some pass protection, and the progression reads leads Quinn right to an easy TD on his left to right read pattern. And I mean split second.

Look. We all know we are going to win games with Cassel at QB. When we can run it for a buck thirty-five or more, you can almost take it to the bank. It is when we are below that line that the problems are.

I'm done stating my opinion. I'm not afraid to be wrong. Quinn is the best QB between he and Cassel. And it is not that close.

Don't see it. Put down the crack pipe.

BoneKrusher · 09-03-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

One draft away...

Smith to the rescue

Black Bob · 09-03-2012, 07:51 PM

Brady Quinn is done getting chances to be a starter.

Also, Matt Cassel is going to be our QB for quite a while imo. He's on the verge of a career season. It's not that I like him because I don't. I just think he's OK. However, look at the roster. He's good enough to distribute the ball effectively with this o-line and wide receivers.

JD10367 · 09-03-2012, 07:57 PM

Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.

I'll take the cross eyed chick, please.

Mr_Tomahawk · 09-03-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.

NJChiefsFan · 09-03-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.

If I was a gimp, hunchback, or cross-eyed chick I would be insulted by that comparison.

Brock · 09-03-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Quinn has a sprained neck, doesn't he?

I wonder how that little detail will play out.

LOL

Black Bob · 09-03-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

One draft away...

I can't see Pioli ever taking a scrambling QB. He's about consistancy and those guys are consistant for the most part because they get hurt. It's not his style.

Mr_Tomahawk · 09-03-2012, 08:30 PM

Charlie Weis will convince Pioli to pickup another one of his guys in Dane Crist late in the draft.

Drafting QB in late rnd coached by another buddy of his...calling it now. /Pioli [See: Stanzi]

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

LOL

what was funny about that?

**007** · 09-03-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

that would imply that we were not shitty for a time since Carl left.

O.city · 09-03-2012, 08:42 PM

Sure he's a scrambling qb, that just completed 32 of 36 passes, basically from the pocket.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Sure he's a scrambling qb, that just completed 32 of 36 passes, basically from the pocket.

Well, he is black...isn't he?

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2145651	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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09-03-2012, 07:51 PM	#109
Black Bob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town Casino cash: $10004900	Brady Quinn is done getting chances to be a starter. Also, Matt Cassel is going to be our QB for quite a while imo. He's on the verge of a career season. It's not that I like him because I don't. I just think he's OK. However, look at the roster. He's good enough to distribute the ball effectively with this o-line and wide receivers.
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09-03-2012, 07:57 PM	#110
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.
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Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-69474	Charlie Weis will convince Pioli to pickup another one of his guys in Dane Crist late in the draft. Drafting QB in late rnd coached by another buddy of his...calling it now. /Pioli [See: Stanzi] __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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09-03-2012, 08:42 PM	#119
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-615936	Sure he's a scrambling qb, that just completed 32 of 36 passes, basically from the pocket.
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