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Sorter · 07-06-2013, 01:51 AM

Unfortunately, I won't be doing pbp (for the few that enjoy it). I think this is a decent card but only worth buying because of Anderson. If you can, check out Edwin Barboza on the prelims.

jd1020 · 07-07-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

pffft...I highly doubt Silva evers goes down by a guy who just sticks his arm out...

You are right. He's never taken a hit so powerful... gtfo.

stevieray · 07-07-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

You are right. He's never taken a hit so powerful... gtfo.

powerful enough to win...

jd1020 · 07-07-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

powerful enough to win...

Has everything to do with where it landed, champ.

Like I said... he stuck his arm out and clipped him where it counted. If you want to believe otherwise then that's your choice. You can't change the facts.

The GIFs on page 6 for your viewing pleasure.

**Buck** · 07-07-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry

It almost seems like Silva wanted to lose and give the belt up. This is really weird.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Did he throw that fight? Wouldn't surprise me.

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Kinda seems like it! Kinda looks like what he said, he's been working at a top elite level for so long and he didnt give a shit anymore!

Kinda like what you see in the big 4 sports. They just come to a point where ****, it, one last pay day n im out.

I don't think he threw the fight, however, it seemed like he didn't care at all about winning AND it almost seems like everything he did was to make Weidman look like Captain America. That kiss, the no glove touch, and the taunting all can be seen as, "you should like this other guy, not me," in my opinion.

BigCatDaddy · 07-07-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Has everything to do with where it landed, champ.

Like I said... he stuck his arm out and clipped him where it counted. If you want to believe otherwise then that's your choice. You can't change the facts.

The GIFs on page 6 for your viewing pleasure.

Just like real estate it' about location locatio location.

mcaj22 · 07-07-2013, 12:57 PM

This Weidman guy is not going to hold the belt as long as Silva had, I think we will see the belt change hands a lot more frequently now.

BigCatDaddy · 07-07-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

This Weidman guy is not going to hold the belt as long as Silva had, I think we will see the belt change hands a lot more frequently now.

You are really going out on a limb there

Pants · 07-07-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Yes and Yes.

I didn't see the first meeting between Sonnen and Silva but in the second meeting there was a point in the match where Silva was casually walking backwards across the ring with his arms down by his side not defending himself. The rest of the fight Sonnen was bullrushing him and the entire first round Silva was in guard.

You should probably go watch the Belfort fight again. Multiple times he had his arms down not defending himself because Belfort wasn't doing anything... The first punch Belfort threw came damn near 3 minutes into the round when Silva was dancing around with his hands down. The fight lasted 4 minutes, you can bet your ass he would have continued doing it.

He'll wait til he thinks he's seen your best and feels you cant touch him and gets cocky. It cost him this time.

EDIT: Watching a replay of their first meeting and by the 3:30 mark in the first round hes doing it. Hands down taking shots to the chin.

EDIT 2: Just finished watching the whole fight and a more appropriate question would be... Did you ever see Silva with the opportunity to do what he did with Weidman? He easily spent 95% of the fight on his back because Sonnen, a wrestler, had no interest in sitting back and going toe to toe with Silva.

Ya, I know. Post 81.

Pants · 07-07-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I don't think he threw the fight, however, it seemed like he didn't care at all about winning AND it almost seems like everything he did was to make Weidman look like Captain America. That kiss, the no glove touch, and the taunting all can be seen as, "you should like this other guy, not me," in my opinion.

That's actually a very interesting observation. I still maintain, though, that Anderson had a gameplan and was sticking to it. The taunting was probably very calculated and, I think, was meant to be a trap to lure Weidman into a knock out counter. Anderson knew he wouldn't be able to stop Weidman's takedowns so he was enticing Weidman to swing away instead. Nobody is better at striking than Anderson, he simply went too far with it and got caught by Weidman.

Also, I think people are vastly underrating Weidman's abilities. Dude is the next gen of fighters.

**SAUTO** · 07-07-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I don't think he threw the fight, however, it seemed like he didn't care at all about winning AND it almost seems like everything he did was to make Weidman look like Captain America. That kiss, the no glove touch, and the taunting all can be seen as, "you should like this other guy, not me," in my opinion.

he has done all those type things for his last five fights at least.
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Otter · 07-07-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

That's actually a very interesting observation. I still maintain, though, that Anderson had a gameplan and was sticking to it. The taunting was probably very calculated and, I think, was meant to be a trap to lure Weidman into a knock out counter. Anderson knew he wouldn't be able to stop Weidman's takedowns so he was enticing Weidman to swing away instead. Nobody is better at striking than Anderson, he simply went too far with it and got caught by Weidman.

Also, I think people are vastly underrating Weidman's abilities. Dude is the next gen of fighters.

This.

stevieray · 07-07-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Has everything to do with where it landed, champ.

Like I said... he stuck his arm out and clipped him where it counted. If you want to believe otherwise then that's your choice. You can't change the facts.

The GIFs on page 6 for your viewing pleasure.

champ? don't get butthurt, style points....ANY punch has the potential be a knockout punch, inckuding a body shot resulting in a TKO. you can downplay it all you want, but as Pants pointed out , the view from from behind Weidman tells a different story...and Pants is correct, IMO, it's a gameplan that finally caught up to him...it was inevitable, regardless that Silva is an inccredible fighter.

jd1020 · 07-07-2013, 01:55 PM

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champ? don't get butthurt, style points....ANY punch has the potential be a knockout punch, inckuding a body shot resulting in a TKO. you can downplay it all you want, but as Pants pointed out , the view from from behind Weidman tells a different story...and Pants is correct, IMO, it's a gameplan that finally caught up to him...it was inevitable, regardless that Silva is an inccredible fighter.

What do I have to be butthurt about? You were the one insinuating that Silva doesn't go down to someone just sticking his arm out and got hit by a hulk-like smash.

Silva's cocky, got clipped in the wrong spot, went down. The End. There was no domination from Weidman, like some are suggesting. It was a shallow win for Weidman, brought on by Silva's cockiness. You can sit there and say it's some gameplan by Silva, and maybe it is, but you can't tell me that when he's training for a fight he's being coached to have his arms down and let the other guy hit him and to put yourself against the cage and let the other guy get position.

**SAUTO** · 07-07-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

What do I have to be butthurt about? You were the one insinuating that Silva doesn't go down to someone just sticking his arm out and got hit by a hulk-like smash.

Silva's cocky, got clipped in the wrong spot, went down. The End. There was no domination from Weidman, like some are suggesting. It was a shallow win for Weidman, brought on by Silva's cockiness. You can sit there and say it's some gameplan by Silva, and maybe it is, but you can't tell me that when he's training for a fight he's being coached to have his arms down and let the other guy hit him.

Agreed.
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kcxiv · 07-07-2013, 02:03 PM

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What do I have to be butthurt about? You were the one insinuating that Silva doesn't go down to someone just sticking his arm out and got hit by a hulk-like smash.

Silva's cocky, got clipped in the wrong spot, went down. The End. There was no domination from Weidman, like some are suggesting. It was a shallow win for Weidman, brought on by Silva's cockiness. You can sit there and say it's some gameplan by Silva, and maybe it is, but you can't tell me that when he's training for a fight he's being coached to have his arms down and let the other guy hit him and to put yourself against the cage and let the other guy get position.

yep. Thats why i kinda feel bleh about it. They can spin it however they want. Im not a Silva nuthugger either, i always want to see him lose, but this was just meh.

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