Famous Jameis...Rapist?

[nychief]

Don't know if you're following the Jameis Winston rape coverup - but seems like a pretty dirty deal happening down in Tampa.

New statement from the victim's family...
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2013/PDFs/winston.pdf

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't see anything stating that Oklahoma pulled his offer.

You don't see anything stated any school pulled an offer very often. Schools aren't telling anyone who they've offered and who they haven't. Players tell recruiting services who has offered them.

You only see offer pulls if someone verballed and then the team recruited over them. Where an explanation has to be made, and even then that usually results in somebody just switching schools.

Of course only the SEC over signs and then they usually grey shirt.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Bottom line is Winston wasn't interested in OU. Bogus question of character concerns.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

"So rare as to be effectively irrelevant" to the consideration of the credibility or all rape cases. That's what I said. Remember when you posted this: ?

I was responding directly to that. I don't question the credibility of any rape accusation. It's a very small number of false accusations that happen. Gigantically larger is the amount of legitimate rapes, and also larger is the number of rapes that go unreported for a variety of reasons owing to rape culture. I mean, read a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture That's not a phrase I'm making up. That's some real shit.

If I were to question the credibility of all rape allegations because of the (let's be generous and say 5%) few false allegations that get made then I'd be contributing to the victim-blaming, she-was-asking-for-it, her-fault-for-drinking mentality that basically teaches boys in this country that rape is OK.

So I have no real statistical reason to disbelieve this woman's allegations. And I have good moral reason not to disbelieve her either. If Winston is innocent then I hope the facts proving him so will come to light.

Agreed

[SeeingRed]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.

This is enough to cost him the Heisman no doubt! His silence and his denial then change of story speaks its own dialog. Voters will def look at this very hard. Mante Teo's imaginary girlfriend last year was embarrassing enough Jameis may not even be considered a finalist

[RedDread]

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

This is enough to cost him the Heisman no doubt! His silence and his denial then change of story speaks its own dialog. Voters will def look at this very hard. Mante Teo's imaginary girlfriend last year was embarrassing enough Jameis may not even be considered a finalist

But the bigger question is if it will deny him a shot in the NFL. His draft stock will drop but unless he's in jail, he'll be on someone's roster.

Hardware is nice but let's be honest, money is better.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

When did he change his story? Did I miss that?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

When did he change his story? Did I miss that?

first he said he didn't know her then said it was consensual

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

first he said he didn't know her then said it was consensual

Link? Can't find it. Doubt it's true or it'd be looking much worse for him.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

Link? Can't find it. Doubt it's true or it'd be looking much worse for him.

hell I read it in one of these threads...

many people have referenced it.


first he said he didn't know the victim, then when dna came out he said the sex was concensual

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

Bottom line is Winston wasn't interested in OU. Bogus question of character concerns.

Certainly possible, although it didn't seem like it while following the recruitment.

Recently it seems like nobody is interested in OU, that wasn't the case 2 years ago recently removed from Sam Bradford.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

hell I read it in one of these threads...

many people have referenced it.


first he said he didn't know the victim, then when dna came out he said the sex was concensual

Well that info doesn't appear to exist. I think someone on here misinterpreted something. His story has been consistent as far as I can tell.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

Well that info doesn't appear to exist. I think someone on here misinterpreted something. His story has been consistent as far as I can tell.

are you saying he said he had sex with her right off the bat?

BRC Says otherwise

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

are you saying he said he had sex with her right off the bat?

BRC Says otherwise

I went back and read the post. I don't know where he go that info. Odd statement when nobody seemed to know about the case. I guess he lives around there? Reporting gossip? That may be relevant, but it's not anything that has been confirmed.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

I went back and read the post. I don't know where he go that info. Odd statement when nobody seemed to know about the case. I guess he lives around there? Reporting gossip? That may be relevant, but it's not anything that has been confirmed.

You have to be in BRC's secret email club to get that information.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

You have to be in BRC's secret email club to get that information.

Haha. He's Such a huge bullshitter. It's embarrassing. But if he does have gossip, I'm not saying I wouldn't like to hear it. Reading the FSU boards has been fun