Chiefs "The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz ... will likely sign elsewhere." - Page 8

Direckshun · 02-26-2014, 11:47 AM

So says the guy who runs draftinsider.net, Tony Pauline, talking to people all week at the Combine:

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Kansas City Chiefs:

I'm told Branden Albert may not be the only veteran offensive lineman out the door in Kansas City. The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz, who received heavy interest at the combine, will likely sign elsewhere.

Follow Tony Pauline @TonyPauline.

He's also reporting the rumor that the Raiders want to try to re-sign McFadden, but they are unlikely to pull it off.

OldSchool · 02-26-2014, 08:22 PM

It could be an effort from his camp to raise the Chiefs' current offer to him. Flip side to that is, if we don't make that offer, he could very well just go to a team who will pay him what he thinks he's worth.

**Mav** · 02-26-2014, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

This.

Why on earth would he leave? He has a home with the Chiefs, and it seemed like he'd pretty much beaten Asamoah out for the starting job.

He has a brother in Cleveland. They are going to play side by side.

**BossChief** · 02-26-2014, 10:12 PM

Just trying to play the voice of reason here. Even though it would piss me off if we lose GS to a reasonable FA deal, John Dorsey DOES NOT SLEEP.

He is a mutant. A half machine half created human with no need for food or sleep.

He is constantly watching tape and interviewing players.

I bet he is doing one of the 2 right now.

Last offseason, he went out and found a bunch of talented players at the vet min or bargain basement prices that played big roles for us.

Schwartz
Abdullah
Jordan
Demps (great signing as just a returner, not so much as a safety)
Avery

Just to name a few.

He also got other players like Marcus Cooper and Tyler Bray with no investment.

He found a "Geoff Scwartz" before and he will find one again...but I also doubt the validity of this report because I highly doubt that any decision to let him go has been made at this point.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-26-2014, 10:14 PM

I would like to know why one game is enough of a sample size to make an evaluation on a professional football player.

This, "X played awesome against SD, therefore X is awesome," is just flat out idiotic.

tk13 · 02-26-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I would like to know why one game is enough of a sample size to make an evaluation on a professional football player.

This, "X played awesome against SD, therefore X is awesome," is just flat out idiotic.

Somewhere Matt Flynn is giving you the middle finger.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 02-26-2014, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

He's also reporting the rumor that the Raiders want to try to re-sign McFadden, but they are unlikely to pull it off.

No.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-26-2014, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I would like to know why one game is enough of a sample size to make an evaluation on a professional football player.

This, "X played awesome against SD, therefore X is awesome," is just flat out idiotic.

I don't think anyone is saying that. Between Allen, Hudson, and Watkins, we have options at a position that isn't really that important. I'd like to sign Schwartz, but not for too much and life will go on without him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-26-2014, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think anyone is saying that. Between Allen, Hudson, and Watkins, we have options at a position that isn't really that important. I'd like to sign Schwartz, but not for too much and life will go on without him.

It has been said literally thousands of times in the last two months, and several times in this thread.

**BossChief** · 02-26-2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I would like to know why one game is enough of a sample size to make an evaluation on a professional football player.

This, "X played awesome against SD, therefore X is awesome," is just flat out idiotic.

Not sure who is saying any of these guys are awesome, but there were a handful of players that went out there and showed they belonged on the field that day against a team that was already in playoff mode.

Kush
Watkins
Powe
Catapano
Bailey

I'm excited to see the future of those guys because of that.

If two or three of them become average starting quality players, that's a fairly big deal. It's a good sign when younger guys play well at the end of the year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-26-2014, 10:46 PM

It's an incredibly limited sample size. It just doesn't mean that much.

ThaVirus · 02-26-2014, 10:47 PM

It has been said like a mother****er about Watkins and Kush.

People have been drinking the shit out of the Kool-Aid thinking we'll somehow get better by dropping a premier LT and a RG that proved to be our second best lineman by season's end- at the same time expecting a 5th and 6th round center and guard to somehow stabilize the positions..

**BossChief** · 02-26-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's an incredibly limited sample size. It just doesn't mean that much.

And at the same time shouldn't be easily discarded.

All some of us are saying about that group is that they showed the ability to play and warrants consideration for increased playing time in the future to see if they can continue to develop while playing a larger role.

I'm of the opinion that Bailey, Powe and Catapano could have helped our starting line stay fresh all year and tat Bob Sutton needs to rotate some of these guys so we get don't burn everyone out next year.

All three showed the ability to disrupt plays.

**Easy 6** · 02-27-2014, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah, pretty much sums it up... another brick in the wall, gone.

-King- · 02-27-2014, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You're over-dramatic.

This. It seems like every direckshuns post lately is him overreacting to something.

Titty Meat · 02-27-2014, 07:32 AM

Direck isn't overreacting.

Lets breakdown the stupidity of letting Schwartz go.

First of all the offense made drastic improvements once Schwartz was inserted at guard. Its no coincidence that the teams highest scoring outputs were the games Fisher didnt play.

So now they are going to let their 2 best linemen go with a qb who's had injuries in the past and will presumably draft their replacements. Lets keep in mind this is the same failed strategy that got Andy fired and its not like Green Bay picked any o-linemen worth a shit in the first round either.

Schwartz has always been a productive player everywhere he's been. Not resigning him with 12 mil in capspace is ****ing stupid.

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02-26-2014, 10:12 PM	#108
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1695912	Just trying to play the voice of reason here. Even though it would piss me off if we lose GS to a reasonable FA deal, John Dorsey DOES NOT SLEEP. He is a mutant. A half machine half created human with no need for food or sleep. He is constantly watching tape and interviewing players. I bet he is doing one of the 2 right now. Last offseason, he went out and found a bunch of talented players at the vet min or bargain basement prices that played big roles for us. Schwartz Abdullah Jordan Demps (great signing as just a returner, not so much as a safety) Avery Just to name a few. He also got other players like Marcus Cooper and Tyler Bray with no investment. He found a "Geoff Scwartz" before and he will find one again...but I also doubt the validity of this report because I highly doubt that any decision to let him go has been made at this point. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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02-26-2014, 10:14 PM	#109
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7159572	I would like to know why one game is enough of a sample size to make an evaluation on a professional football player. This, "X played awesome against SD, therefore X is awesome," is just flat out idiotic. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-26-2014, 10:46 PM	#115
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7159572	It's an incredibly limited sample size. It just doesn't mean that much. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1767631	It has been said like a mother****er about Watkins and Kush. People have been drinking the shit out of the Kool-Aid thinking we'll somehow get better by dropping a premier LT and a RG that proved to be our second best lineman by season's end- at the same time expecting a 5th and 6th round center and guard to somehow stabilize the positions..
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02-27-2014, 07:32 AM	#120
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1122442	Direck isn't overreacting. Lets breakdown the stupidity of letting Schwartz go. First of all the offense made drastic improvements once Schwartz was inserted at guard. Its no coincidence that the teams highest scoring outputs were the games Fisher didnt play. So now they are going to let their 2 best linemen go with a qb who's had injuries in the past and will presumably draft their replacements. Lets keep in mind this is the same failed strategy that got Andy fired and its not like Green Bay picked any o-linemen worth a shit in the first round either. Schwartz has always been a productive player everywhere he's been. Not resigning him with 12 mil in capspace is ****ing stupid.
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