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Old 05-22-2014, 05:54 PM  
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The Fermi Paradox - Why we haven't been contacted by aliens
Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:37 AM   #106
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:40 AM   #107
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Ditto why we haven't been visited by earthlings from the future. Conclusion: time travel is not possible or the people with it in the future would have come back to visit us by now.
Or just maybe...

They have a device shaped like a pen that can replace any memories of an encounter, with what ever scenario they want to use. They would hold it up and flash it like an old time camera and then say what they wanted us to think.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:22 AM   #108
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"An even more advanced civilization might view the entire physical world as a horribly primitive place, having long ago conquered their own biology and uploaded their brains to a virtual reality, eternal-life paradise. Living in the physical world of biology, mortality, wants, and needs might seem to them the way we view primitive ocean species living in the frigid, dark sea."

The author briefly covers this as a possibility, but given how relatively close we are to having the computing capacity to mirror and download human consciousness, this seems like the likely answer. Perhaps every civilization that develops the capable of interstellar travel, etc. just chose virtual.

A fun short story by Isaac Asimov entitled "The Last Question" talks about this.

http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:27 AM   #109
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It could tie into our eventual understanding of dark matter and dark energy. It's out there and there's apparently a galactic shit ton of it.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:44 AM   #110
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Ditto why we haven't been visited by earthlings from the future. Conclusion: time travel is not possible or the people with it in the future would have come back to visit us by now.
This is another interesting view.

I also like the multi-verse option. Like there's 1000's of versions of our universe and in one of them they figure out how to jump from universe to universe. It's an alien version of us and they really like sticking things in peoples butt's and blowing up cows. They're a bunch of multi-universe jokesters.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:46 AM   #111
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Tell that to Stephen Hawking.

And really it is not. Some of the computers trying to do Quantum Physics calculations could fill a mall. Look how big the computers use to be a few decades ago- and that was just to balance your checkbook. When you are talking about problems involving numbers that will circle the earth 100,000 times-you are talking about giant computers- now times that by the entire knowledge in All universes. Impossible.

Ok, I called him last night and told him. He's a jerk too, thinks he knows everything! I told him he better be looking over his shoulder cause when I find him I'm kicking his ass.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:55 AM   #112
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It's just too damn far. One of the things that fascinates me about the universe is how long it would take to get to another galaxy. The nearest spiral galaxy is what...2.5 million light years away? Whenever I think about how far light could travel in 2.5 million years it blows my mind. If there are "aliens" that have been here or are here, I have to think it's some kind of interdimensional visitor and not some intergalactic visitor.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:16 AM   #113
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If 0.3% of the budget is a lot then the answer is yes. NASAs entire budget since it's inception is less than the bank bail out of 2008.
This is just too damn depressing.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:42 AM   #114
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Ok, I called him last night and told him. He's a jerk too, thinks he knows everything! I told him he better be looking over his shoulder cause when I find him I'm kicking his ass.

Tell him he still owes me money from that incident in Savannah.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:43 AM   #115
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It's just too damn far. One of the things that fascinates me about the universe is how long it would take to get to another galaxy. The nearest spiral galaxy is what...2.5 million light years away? Whenever I think about how far light could travel in 2.5 million years it blows my mind. If there are "aliens" that have been here or are here, I have to think it's some kind of interdimensional visitor and not some intergalactic visitor.
yeah it really is hard to comprehend that distance
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:50 AM   #116
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yeah it really is hard to comprehend that distance
It's easier when you put it linear compared to Chiefs superbowls
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:55 AM   #117
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I miss my brother in arms. Even if he was a mult.




We had a connection...
I loved his little pointy head. Phil did the whole board a huge disservice nuking him off the map.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:12 AM   #118
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Tell him he still owes me money from that incident in Savannah.
How much ? when I find him I'll beat it outta him.
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Ok, I called him last night and told him. He's a jerk too, thinks he knows everything! I told him he better be looking over his shoulder cause when I find him I'm kicking his ass.

Hawking would prob. use his awesome brain power to control a laser he built as an afternoon time killer- to blast a hole through both of your eyeballs before you could get close.
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It is impossible to know everything there is to know. If you wanted to store all the information on all the galaxies out there-it would take a super computer-so big and so heavy-it would actually sink down into the fabric of space and create a black hole. This black hole would be so huge it would suck everything into it and stretch it into particles. Thus making it impossible to harness all the knowledge out there.
You need quantum computers to do the math. I posted about these new quantum computers in the science is cool thread if you want to look it up.

It's not that far off. Physics.org posted this just today about Google opening up access to their quantum computer.

http://phys.org/news/2014-05-google-...layground.html


Quantum Computing Playground can simulate quantum registers up to 22 qubits, run Grover's and Shor's algorithms, and has quantum gates built into the scripting language itself.

Lots of progress on single atom approach to quantum computers.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/...ntum-computing

A quantum-information analogue of the transistor has been unveiled by two independent groups in Germany and the US. Both devices comprise a single atom that can switch the quantum state of a single photon. The results are a major step towards the development of practical quantum computers.\


Unlike conventional computers, which store bits of information in definite values of 0 or 1, quantum computers store information in qubits, which are a superposition of both values. When qubits are entangled, any change in one immediately affects the others. Qubits can therefore work in unison to solve certain complex problems much faster than their classical counterparts.



Qubits can be created from either light or matter, but many researchers believe that the practical quantum computers of the future will have to rely on interactions between both. Unfortunately, light tends only to interact with matter when the light is very intense and the matter is very dense. To make a single photon and a single atom interact is a challenge because the two are much more likely to pass straight through each other.


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