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Old 07-11-2015, 12:07 AM  
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Elite QB's Smith has deafeted the last 4 years
Rodgers
Brady
Wilson
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Rothlisberger
Rivers

Why can't a talented team with Smith compete?
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Old 07-12-2015, 12:55 AM   #106
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Rodgers has more than a super bowl appearance, he has a super bowl win. He's a big time threat to do it every year. Stop comparing kc's qb to franchise qbs. It makes him look worse than he really is.
He'll be a "threat" if he has a consistent running game and defense.

Otherwise, nope.
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:11 AM   #107
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Don't forget the quality of the coaching staff...and their ability to put all the moving parts together...I guess that is what some call "chemistry". Injuries kind of supersedes QB...IMO. Having a top 5 QB masks those on the offensive side.
Coaching is a tough one to rank. You know it's crap when it's crap and usually compounded by players not committing other than gameday or half of gameday and that doesn't work. You need 6 days a week focus.

But it's hard to look at what it does because when it changes, it's usually with roster turnover.
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:13 AM   #108
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:37 AM   #109
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He'll be a "threat" if he has a consistent running game and defense.

Otherwise, nope.
His O-Line was great last season possibly the best pass protection.

Rodgers sack time on avg was over 4 seconds. 3.8+ is high. 4.0 is very high. Geno was a wacky 4.4 seconds. A sign of utter crap QB awareness.
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:41 AM   #110
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Well, it CAN be.

When the defense falters, it becomes QB vs QB...and Alex fails in those situations traditionally, because his defense carries him usually, not the other way around.

3-37-1

Anyway, this team doesn't have the OL or receivers to get into a shootout with anyone. And certainly not the QB.

We will need a top 3 scoring defense to win a playoff game with Alice.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:40 AM   #111
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AND a great QB. That's just how it is now.
Depends on what you mean by a great QB. You're either a QB that can carry a team on your back. Or you're an efficient QB who converts third downs, makes big throws as needed, and is a killer at closing games. On a rare occasion, you have a team good enough to carry your QB.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:44 AM   #112
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His O-Line was great last season possibly the best pass protection.

Rodgers sack time on avg was over 4 seconds. 3.8+ is high. 4.0 is very high. Geno was a wacky 4.4 seconds. A sign of utter crap QB awareness.
Rodgers' sack time is higher because he's looking downfield and looking to make plays happen. He also has great pocket awareness. I don't think Smith's pocket awareness is anything special. And I think he gets rid of the ball too slow because he doesn't to throw it downfield unless a guy is wide open.

But thing is, I know Smith has it in him. I just don't know after this long how you get him to do that more consistently.
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:50 AM   #113
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That makes no sense...he should be in the SB every year. Why isn't the best QB in the SB every year? I'm trying to understand your argument...If a franchise QB is the winning recipe than why arent the best going every year? Why is Wilson being so successful? Why is a mediocre team like the Giants beating an 18-0, Brady led team?
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:48 PM   #114
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Rodgers' sack time is higher because he's looking downfield and looking to make plays happen.
Possible to do that when not on the ground or have a guy in your grill.

Blocking comes first.

Who is more focused on chucking to make a play than Luck? And his sack time last year was 3.6

Alex Smith 3.4
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Possible to do that when not on the ground or have a guy in your grill.

Blocking comes first.

Who is more focused on chucking to make a play than Luck? And his sack time last year was 3.6

Alex Smith 3.4
And a lot of those quick sacks could have been avoided if Smith spotted the hot route. Or didn't pull back on a quick pass because he was afraid to throw it into a tight spot. Or if he had better pocket awareness.

Yeah, his OL was terrible. Everybody knows that. But you can't just point blank blame the OL. Smith has to get better in certain areas too. I don't think it's at all a coincidence that when Smith played aggressive end of 2013, the OL played much better.
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That makes no sense...he should be in the SB every year. Why isn't the best QB in the SB every year? I'm trying to understand your argument...If a franchise QB is the winning recipe than why arent the best going every year? Why is Wilson being so successful? Why is a mediocre team like the Giants beating an 18-0, Brady led team?
The top 5 QBs of this 'generation' are Brady, P. Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger and Rodgers. Between them, they have 9 of the last 14 SB wins, and at least one of them has appeared in 12 of the last 14 SBs.
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And a lot of those quick sacks could have been avoided if Smith spotted the hot route. Or didn't pull back on a quick pass because he was afraid to throw it into a tight spot. Or if he had better pocket awareness.

Yeah, his OL was terrible. Everybody knows that. But you can't just point blank blame the OL. Smith has to get better in certain areas too. I don't think it's at all a coincidence that when Smith played aggressive end of 2013, the OL played much better.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/3...-the-offensive

OL plays better. Pass offense can open up.
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