Justin Houston Contract Rumor...

[ChiefGator]

Yeah, yeah.. Bleacher report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ey-from-chiefs

Says Justin Houston wants a JJ Watt type contract from the Chiefs. Watt signed a six year 100 million deal with Houston.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/

Those numbers actually seem fairly reasonable, assuming Houston keeps at his trade. Probably ends up being a little bit less guaranteed, but I could certainly live with that salary cap hit year-by-year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MGM

Can't you only rage a guy twice?

You can rage someone am infinite number of times

[MGM]

Originally Posted by O.city

You can rage someone am infinite number of times

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't know why tagging him multiple years is even an option.

If you want to keep him long-term, then give him a long-term contract so that it expires when he's 32 or 33. You want to pay him while he's good, then get him off the books as soon as his production slips.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know why tagging him multiple years is even an option.

If you want to keep him long-term, then give him a long-term contract so that it expires when he's 32 or 33. You want to pay him while he's good, then get him off the books as soon as his production slips.

Worst case scenario.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know why tagging him multiple years is even an option.

If you want to keep him long-term, then give him a long-term contract so that it expires when he's 32 or 33. You want to pay him while he's good, then get him off the books as soon as his production slips.

If he doesn't want to sign a long term deal that makes sense for both sides, we simply can't let him leave. If our only option is to tag him 3 times, then that's what needs done.

The guy just turned 26 in January. That means he has 7-8 more good years left...we can afford to tag him the next 2-3 years and then give him a long term deal. Even if we tag him 3 times in a row, we would be trying to sign him at age 29.

There isn't anyone crucial to the organization that we might need to tag next year...besides Houston...and we have lots of cap space.

[MGM]

Originally Posted by milkman

Moron.

Outside of QB, the biggest difference maker on any team is a pass rusher.

Even if he weren't the most versatile and conplete OLB in the NFL, what Houston contributes to this team in sacks and pressures makes him one of the most valuable assets on the defensive side of the ball in the league.

They are important but when you put them in the top ten highest paid players in the league you don't have the horses to win in the playoffs. There is only one position worth spending that kind if money on and that's QB.

Watt was on his rookie contract when they won in the playoffs. Since he got the big contact they've done nothing. Suh never won a playoff game after getting paid. The other eight ten highest paid are QBs. You make Houston a top ten paid player and it's this year or bust for KC for a long while.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by MGM

They are important but when you put them in the top ten highest paid players in the league you don't have the horses to win in the playoffs. There is only one position worth spending that kind if money on and that's QB.

Watt was on his rookie contract when they won in the playoffs. Since he got the big contact they've done nothing. Suh never won a playoff game after getting paid. The other eight ten highest paid are QBs. You make Houston a top ten paid player and it's this year or bust for KC for a long while.

True. But he also hasn't even played a game since he signed, either.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If he doesn't want to sign a long term deal that makes sense for both sides, we simply can't let him leave. If our only option is to tag him 3 times, then that's what needs done.

The guy just turned 26 in January. That means he has 7-8 more good years left...we can afford to tag him the next 2-3 years and then give him a long term deal. Even if we tag him 3 times in a row, we would be trying to sign him at age 29.

There isn't anyone crucial to the organization that we might need to tag next year...besides Houston...and we have lots of cap space.

I don't get that strategy. Tagging him 3 years in a row is basically giving him close to JJ Watt money 3 years in a row. So if you're set on tagging him 3 years in a row, then why not give him JJ Watt money long-term without pissing Houston off? Even better, you'd have no drama in 3 years about keeping him but you'd also be making good progress toward paying off his dead cap charge.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MGM

They are important but when you put them in the top ten highest paid players in the league you don't have the horses to win in the playoffs. There is only one position worth spending that kind if money on and that's QB.

Watt was on his rookie contract when they won in the playoffs. Since he got the big contact they've done nothing. Suh never won a playoff game after getting paid. The other eight ten highest paid are QBs. You make Houston a top ten paid player and it's this year or bust for KC for a long while.

That's pretty short-sighted. Pass rushers are well worth the money, especially someone like Houston who can also play the run and ply in coverage.

I was NOT a big supporter of paying Albert or Hudson a ton of cash. Houston deserves to get paid.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know why tagging him multiple years is even an option.

If you want to keep him long-term, then give him a long-term contract so that it expires when he's 32 or 33. You want to pay him while he's good, then get him off the books as soon as his production slips.

We wanted to pay him this year.

Shit happens in this business. Sometimes you have to resort to shitty situations like a second tag.

Basically, if Houston has to sign the tender (and it looks like that's going to be the case), Dorsey needs to get the extension done during the season. Because the way these talks have gone on and on for the better part of an entire calendar year, there's no way that gap is going to suddenly get closed between the end of the regular season and the start of free agency.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by MGM

They are important but when you put them in the top ten highest paid players in the league you don't have the horses to win in the playoffs. There is only one position worth spending that kind if money on and that's QB.

Watt was on his rookie contract when they won in the playoffs. Since he got the big contact they've done nothing. Suh never won a playoff game after getting paid. The other eight ten highest paid are QBs. You make Houston a top ten paid player and it's this year or bust for KC for a long while.

Hypothetically, if Watt could come play for KC on his current contract, would you want him?

[MGM]

Originally Posted by BossChief

True. But he also hasn't even played a game since he signed, either.

Well, they didn't win a playoff game when he played under the tag either. Didn't he make like $20 million last year under that second tag?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SNR

We wanted to pay him this year.

Shit happens in this business. Sometimes you have to.

Basically, if Houston has to sign the tender (and it looks like that's going to be the case), Dorsey needs to get the extension done during the season. Because the way these talks of gone on and on for the better part of an entire calendar year, there's no way that gap is going to suddenly get closed between the end of the regular season and the start of free agency.

This is why I think they'll find a way to get this deal done. Both Houston and the Chiefs probably want a long-term deal. If you believe Hunt/Dorsey that they see him as a part of their future, which I think they're being sincere about.

[Bowser]

Houston is the one guy on the team that could legitimately command a 100mil contract, but that's just too much for one guy. We should save the money from signing Justin Houston to bring in more Nate Hobgood-Chittick's, R-Kal Truluks, and Bobby Sippios.

Sweet Christ there are some straight up stupid fans of this team. ****.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MGM

Well, they didn't win a playoff game when he played under the tag either. Didn't he make like $20 million last year under that second tag?

A QB is going to have a much tougher time winning without a pass rush. A pass rush is going to have a much tougher time winning without a QB. It works both ways.