My generation are a bunch of worthless ****s

[Discuss Thrower]

A strong pat on the back and a reassuring word no longer cuts it when it comes to keeping millennials happy at work.

More than three-quarters of U.K. workers age 18 to 24 say company perks are crucial to their job satisfaction, according to a survey released this week by Perkbox, a company that sells employee gifts. Only about half of baby boomers in the U.K. tied their job satisfaction to the goodies, the survey said.

Amazon gift cards, for example, are the physical representation of a caring, sharing employer, said Saurav Chopra, co-founder of Perkbox. Skyscanner, an Edinburgh-based flight comparison site, gives employees discounts at local sandwich shops and hairdressers. Airbnb provides employees with $2,000 a year good for spending on properties on the home-sharing site anywhere in the world.

“Millennials see this as something employers should do as standard, whereas older employees see it as a bonus,” Chopra said.

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[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm one of the tailing edge boomers, so I feel like my experience was different than a lot of the leading edge people. The biggest difference in my opinion is that people my age always had a very crowded and competitive market for jobs and careers. We had a big population right in front of us that was always at the head of the line. You had to be scrappy to get jobs as a teenager and scholarships and that sort of thing.

Most of the Boomers grew up in the Ozzie and Harriet '50's. You and I grew up with urban decay, gas lines, recessions and massive layoffs, plus disco. Gen X'ers grew up with parachute pants, New Wave, Reagonomics and "Greed is good". It makes our hidden generation a bit cynical, I think.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by seclark

right...just give me the paycheck. keep the letters.
and i never go to the company bbq, or any functions that happen on my own time.

company bbq...
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I understand the philosophy, but you should never turn down free bbq.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Most of the Boomers grew up in the Ozzie and Harriet '50's. You and I grew up with urban decay, gas lines, recessions and massive layoffs, plus disco. Gen X'ers grew up with parachute pants, New Wave, Reagonomics and "Greed is good". It makes our hidden generation a bit cynical, I think.

I never thought about this, but when I was younger than age 8, I read about moon landings and astronauts and undersea habitats and all sorts of cool stuff. At age 9 we stopped going to the moon, at 11 the president resigned and there were big lines for gasoline and at 12 we lost Vietnam. Maybe that happens to every generation, but it was a wakeup call.

We still don't have undersea colonies, and they really sounded awesome.

[rambleonthruthefog]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Angry man is angry...

Please get off the Internet they invented if they gave you nothing. You'd do well to remember that every generation has done great things, and the follow on generations make them even better.

Sent from my phone using Tapatalk (so spelling be damned!!!)

I said next to nothing because there are many more examples than
The one you gave. That being said, our country can move forward toward a realistic future when the boomers are mostly dead.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog

I said next to nothing because there are many more examples than
The one you gave. That being said, our country can move forward toward a realistic future when the boomers are mostly dead.

Can you tell me where they hurt you?

[Simply Red]

I like them okay - provided they're GMO free.

[Rain Man]

If you're going to say negative things about us boomers, we're going to delay our retirements and keep you from ever getting promoted.

[Discuss Thrower]

Millennials do not believe in free speech.

Millennials believe in socialism.

[TribalElder]

Read first post then jumped to end

If your company doesn't go the extra mile and offer perks like free lunches, training, etc then expect to lose when it comes to the talent race.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Angry man is angry...

Please get off the Internet they invented if they gave you nothing. You'd do well to remember that every generation has done great things, and the follow on generations make them even better.

Sent from my phone using Tapatalk (so spelling be damned!!!)

Well except Gen Xers. Where the hell did we go wrong with them. Yikes.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I seriously can't square this circle.

It's completely true.

[listopencil]

Did it ever occur to the older people on the board that maybe you're just shitty people managers?

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Millennials do not believe in free speech.

Millennials believe in socialism.

I've said this before, maybe over in the political forum... but that's why Bernie was such a hit. I believe there could very well be a socialist leaning President in my lifetime at this point, which sounds crazy.

Young people can see that they aren't getting the same deal their parents got. College costs are high, student debt is out of control. And sure you don't have to go that route, but then what do you do with your life? Most professional jobs require a college degree. And we're to the point even that won't always save you. Work at a fast food place? People will say those aren't long term jobs and aren't supposed to offer a living wage. Work at a factory? Those jobs are being shipped overseas more and more. Retirement pensions aren't what they used to be. Social Security is no guarantee at this point. Health care costs will continue to go up. CEO pay is fairly significant.

Millennials are the ones feeling the effects of what essentially is the Wal-Mart generation. The free market system is a great thing, but it does require some benevolence by the job creators. Or, it requires significant competition in a field so that employers are forced to provide great benefits to attract great employees and keep up with the competition.

Do you really think those things are as true as they used to be? America is run by more and more large corporations, there is more consolidation of major companies. Department stores, airlines, cable companies, on and on. Which in theory doesn't have to be a bad thing, but somewhere along the way the mom and pop 1950s turned into the Wal-Mart 1980s.

I don't really think it's all bad yet. It's not like we're at the end of the world, but if we get down the road and things get worse, you might have a generation who votes for a socialist because at least they think they'll get something out of the deal.

Edit: And to be super, super clear, I'm not saying that's "right" at all. But just like anything else, when one group of people see what another group before them got, they're going to want the same thing, or something even better. Doesn't matter what it is.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I'm at the beginning end of the millenials and I reached 10yrs at the same company this year.

I've done well here, but during that time I've seen/endured:
- reduction in the 401k match
- straight time paid overtime after 46hrs worked eliminated for salaried employees (i.e. I can still work OT just get zero compensation for it)
- discontinued pension for new hires
- furloughs
- layoffs
- health insurance changed to a high deductible plan and this year 100% dental coverage premiums are the employees responsibility (thankfully I'm switching to the wife's health plan)

Meanwhile the stock price has appreciated over 200% during that time.

How can you blame a generation not even 1/3 through their careers for looking out for themselves when corporate America seeks every opportunity to **** them over?

I love that companies wonder there is not more loyalty to them.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by tk13

I've said this before, maybe over in the political forum... but that's why Bernie was such a hit. I believe there could very well be a socialist leaning President in my lifetime at this point, which sounds crazy.

Milly's care much more about feelings and being offended than X'ers or Boomers.

Originally Posted by tk13

Young people can see that they aren't getting the same deal their parents got. College costs are high, student debt is out of control. And sure you don't have to go that route, but then what do you do with your life? Most professional jobs require a college degree. And we're to the point even that won't always save you. Work at a fast food place? People will say those aren't long term jobs and aren't supposed to offer a living wage. Work at a factory? Those jobs are being shipped overseas more and more. Retirement pensions aren't what they used to be. Social Security is no guarantee at this point. Health care costs will continue to go up. CEO pay is fairly significant.

To be fair this is probably the worst time to have to look for employment in my life. When I was laid off about 7 years ago was the first time I'd gone to an interview and didn't get the job (if I wanted it.) Factory jobs didn't want me because I had 4 years of college. State jobs either required a degree that was specific to the field or years of experience. I can understand the frustration.

On the other hand with the internet and social media there are other opportunities open. Networking and making contacts is easier now. Finding job openings and applying is easier. College is even online now.

I really don't know who has it better or worse. It's like 3 people with 3 guitars and each has different strings out of tune. None of them sound great but which sounds worse depends on who's holding what guitar...