Val Kilmer RIP

[Hammock Parties]

nice clip of kurt russell talking about working with kilmer on tombstone, from a GQ interview last year pic.twitter.com/yAfK59qiXi

— bosmsoz (@BossMoz) April 2, 2025

[Bump]

You know something I've always done, especially back when I was a social drinker. Sometimes I would get into a conversation about why I didn't like someone. Usually co-workers at a bar after work. "I don't really care for that new guy" or something. And then someone would ask why and I would always say and I would try to make it sound like Val Kilmer in that scene "I don't know, there's just something about him, something around the eyes" and nobody ever connected that to the movie lol but that's why I would say it.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bump

You know something I've always done, especially back when I was a social drinker. Sometimes I would get into a conversation about why I didn't like someone. Usually co-workers at a bar after work. "I don't really care for that new guy" or something. And then someone would ask why and I would always say and I would try to make it sound like Val Kilmer in that scene "I don't know, there's just something about him, something around the eyes" and nobody ever connected that to the movie lol but that's why I would say it.

"And you, music lover... You're next"

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

"And you, music lover... You're next"

"I have two guns, one for each of ya."

[Peace Frog]

Madmartigan:: What the hell happened up there?
Willow:: You started spouting poetry. 'I love you Sorsha! I worship you Sorsha!' You almost got us killed!
Madmartigan:: 'I love you Sorsha?' I don't love her, she kicked me in the face! I hate her... Don't I?

[Deberg_1990]

Another longtime rumor/legend about ‘Tombstone’ is that Kurt Russell ghost directed it.

It’s known that the original director was replaced partially thru filming, so it’s somewhat plausible he might have taken over filming for a bit before the new director showed up.

[ptlyon]

Bet those were the best parts then

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Always a tragedy when the world loses a VK.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Great actor and seemed like a really cool person. He is one of those actors who for most parts -- its hard to tell if they are even acting.

He will be missed.

R.I.P.

Originally Posted by Bump

I actually liked one of his more recent films, Felon. But I am a sucker for prison movies.

Great movie

[Dartgod]

No one's going to post it?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

No one's going to post it?

Not appropriate for this thread sir!

😂

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

No one's going to post it?

Sadly, it should say "Well.... hello."

[Garcia Bronco]

Tombstone is the most entertaining but the Wyatt Earp movie is the better film.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Tombstone is the most entertaining but the Wyatt Earp movie is the better film.

I never have an issue watching either one. But I completely agree with your assessment. They are very different films for covering much of the same ground, but when actual people/events are portrayed, I tend to prefer stories that stick closer to the truth.

Tombstone is a straight up action movie, while Wyatt Earp is a far more accurate character study. Wyatt and Doc were not nice, likeable guys. Kostner's cranky, sullen Earp is far more grounded in reality. Wyatt simply lived long enough to create his own legend while hobnobbing with early Hollywood western stars. And while everybody (including me) loves Kilmer's Doc, Quaid plays him as he was - a bitter, angry, terminally ill alcoholic. Quaid even looks the part - people calling Kilmer "skinny" didn't make him thin.

The main area where Wyatt Earp suffers is the lack of a strong villain - there simply aren't any. Curly Bill is nothing more than a background character and Johnny Ringo is only seen when Doc shoots him and doesn't even have a line a dialogue. Obviously Boothe, Biehn and Lang put Tombstone way over the top in the antagonist department. Tombstone in general has a far superior supporting cast.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I never have an issue watching either one. But I completely agree with your assessment. They are very different films for covering much of the same ground, but when actual people/events are portrayed, I tend to prefer stories that stick closer to the truth.

Tombstone is a straight up action movie, while Wyatt Earp is a far more accurate character study. Wyatt and Doc were not nice, likeable guys. Kostner's cranky, sullen Earp is far more grounded in reality. Wyatt simply lived long enough to create his own legend while hobnobbing with early Hollywood western stars. And while everybody (including me) loves Kilmer's Doc, Quaid plays him as he was - a bitter, angry, terminally ill alcoholic. Quaid even looks the part - people calling Kilmer "skinny" didn't make him thin.

The main area where Wyatt Earp suffers is the lack of a strong villain - there simply aren't any. Curly Bill is nothing more than a background character and Johnny Ringo is only seen when Doc shoots him and doesn't even have a line a dialogue. Obviously Boothe, Biehn and Lang put Tombstone way over the top in the antagonist department. Tombstone in general has a far superior supporting cast.

I agree. I like both. The scope of Wyatt Earp is much bigger too, it's not a film largely about the villains per se and the Cochise County War. I love the end scene with the lynch mob. I believe in actual events that Johnny Ringo organized that lynch mob (which is loosely depicted Tombstone in the turn your head a canoe scene).