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Old 04-27-2025, 03:47 PM   #1
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He'll fit right in with what we do here. No bigger than he is you may see Spags try him out as an edge rusher when we're attempting to contain a mobile QB like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:09 PM   #2
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Interior pass rush is a scarce resource not all that different from T.

The Chiefs got a guy that is exceptional at that one thing, even if he needs work in the run game. I reject the notion that he's completely useless against the run, and I'm pretty sure that's backed up by the advanced stats too.

You don't get a guy that can rush the passer like he does AND stuff the run at a high level at the end of the 2nd round.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:11 PM   #3
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Also, even if he's a part time rotational guy, he's ready to get after the QB today. He can play next to Jones on passing downs week 1.

If all we get are 4 years of this guy wrecking shit on passing downs only, that's still great value.
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Old 04-28-2025, 08:54 AM   #4
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The Chiefs went from 55 and 57 sacks to only 39 last year. The pass rush from week 1 through 11 only had 21 sacks averaging 1.9 sacks/game which was one of the bottom teams in the league. You could really tell Spags was relying too much on blitzing most of last year. There’s only so many blitzes you can put on tape before teams can adjust, so it was a big need to address the pass rush.

Not surprisingly, the Chiefs had 18 sacks in their last 5 games which drastically improved that number to 3.6 sacks/game.

The pass rush immediately got better when Omenihu came back. Danna also had a pec injury which hampered him until about December and that made even more of a difference.

They’ve got their 4 best rushers in Chris, Karlaftis, Omenihu and Danna.
They’ve got Felix in a critical year right behind him. Now they have ONM and Gillotte behind them. I’d argue ONM was perfectly fine bc they don’t need him to play a ton of snaps. He’s gonna be a money down rusher.

Stack good pass rushers. You never know when a few guys will miss time. As much as I hate them, you have to give the Broncos credit for doing this with Bonitto, Cooper, Allen, JFM and Roach/Ellis and even Tillman. Not to mention those assholes got one of my guys Sai’vion Jones.

Keep your guys fresh and rotate. We need to be drafting a pass rusher in the top 100 every single year.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:29 PM   #5
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Run defense is all about discipline, strength and being prepared. That comes with coaching.

You can’t teach the tools he has.
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Old 04-28-2025, 08:01 AM   #6
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You can’t teach the tools he has.
I just can't bring myself to care.

I don't think that was their point. The pick is designed to find a rotational fit as a pass-rusher for at LEAST 2 seasons, IMO.

This year he may struggle to break into the rotation because of how much the team values Danna. I don't understand it, but they do.

Because with Danna and Omenihu, the team's going to like to kick one of those guys inside on passing downs. Or even Karlaftis.

Now if you move Jones out wide, that would seem to open a spot for him. You're not going to want Danna and Omenihu in there; you want a little more bulk than that. So if you have Jones at DE w/ Karlaftis at the other DE, Omenihu and ONL seem like a viable interior rush.

But ultimately I just don't see them even being worried about whether or not ONL becomes a 3-down DT someday.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:35 PM   #7
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Old 04-27-2025, 08:42 PM   #8
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Ryan Tracy loved this pick and the draft as a whole. And he is usually levelheaded when it comes to overhyping prospects. Harms wasn't a fan but he liked the rest of the draft.
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Old 04-28-2025, 06:47 AM   #9
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Ryan Tracy loved this pick and the draft as a whole. And he is usually levelheaded when it comes to overhyping prospects. Harms wasn't a fan but he liked the rest of the draft.

I think Harms, like me, was really on Jordan Burch and Joshua Farmer (believe he also was a huge fan of Alfred Collins) Norman-Lott is a very different player than I thought they’d add at DT but I see the fit.

Gillotte and Butch are two sides of the same coin. If you like Burch you like Gillotte for the same reasons; they’re both guys with the length and power Spagnuolo requires but have some speed and bend.
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Old 04-28-2025, 07:52 AM   #10
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I think Harms, like me, was really on Jordan Burch and Joshua Farmer (believe he also was a huge fan of Alfred Collins) Norman-Lott is a very different player than I thought they’d add at DT but I see the fit.

Gillotte and Butch are two sides of the same coin. If you like Burch you like Gillotte for the same reasons; they’re both guys with the length and power Spagnuolo requires but have some speed and bend.
FWIW- the guys on a podcast I was listening to were remarking that Gillotte is not a typical Spags DE because he doesn’t have the length. His arm length is 31 7/8. ONL arm length though is 33 3/4 .
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They can find the big 0/1 tech run stuffers off the street. Makes sense they look for a guy that can get some rush up there.
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Old 04-28-2025, 08:15 AM   #12
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Often times I feel the Chiefs build their roster with beating teams at the buzzer in mind. This is one of those guys. When the opposing offense is on the field in the waning seconds of the game the running game is virtually irrelevant. This is the guy you went out there along side Chris Jones.
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Old 04-28-2025, 08:11 AM   #14
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Norman-Lott is a perfect fit for a pass rush-heavy role, even if the run defense still needs some polish. I’m here for a rotational guy that can cause chaos up the middle right away. The Chiefs got a steal in this one. Let’s see if he can develop the other aspects, either way, he’s a great value pick for a 2nd rounder.
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I'd still like to have a pure speed DE. But that's just not gonna happen.
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