|
03-18-2017, 06:55 PM | #121 |
"You like to drink?"
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: "I like to drink."
Casino cash: $1736869
|
You're not going to get a 2018 first round pick for the 27th overall pick.
__________________
Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South |
Posts: 43,907
|
03-18-2017, 07:29 PM | #122 |
Admitted Planet Junky
Join Date: Oct 2000
Casino cash: $611627
|
|
Posts: 19,375
|
03-18-2017, 07:50 PM | #123 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $855208
|
Quote:
The Broncos once traded a future 1st of theirs to Detroit so they could have Detroit's 2nd round pick and take some bust ass corner who sucked. I would take that deal in an instant were there a franchise idiotic enough to make that same mistake. I don't think there will be, however. The problem with loading up on 2018 is you don't know if it will be enough and you don't know what you'll have. QB classes are tougher things to predict. 2004 was thought of as kind of an ordinary year, but it ended up being one of the most top-heavy QB classes of all time. A year out, 2013 was thought to be an even assemblage of QB talent, and it turned out to be AIDS soup. Everybody saying, "2018 will be better" has no ****ing clue if it's going to be worth it. Or, you could get the opposite problem. 2012 was this amazing QB class too, but what you had was two damn good prospects get taken at 1 and 2, and then the rest of the QBs had huge issues (Tannehill, Weeden, and Assweiler were the next 3 off the board). If we get the draft ammo to trade up into the top 15 so we can draft the 3rd best QB, is he going to be a legit QB worth taking a shot on, or are we going to be better off trying to hunt for Russell Wilson in the 3rd round? What we do know is that 2017 is a deep, deep, class, and pissing away these picks to get more draft ammo for the potential to trade up in a QB class that has the potential to better than this class is overthinking the draft to an absurd degree. I'd rather take a guy with mechanical flaws like Mahomes and sit his ass on the bench for a couple years with just one pick than **** around with trades into next year when we have plenty of needs that this draft can AMPLY supply to us. |
|
Posts: 91,834
|
03-18-2017, 08:08 PM | #124 | |
Shit
Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
|
Quote:
|
|
Posts: 55,715
|
03-18-2017, 08:20 PM | #125 |
Curmudgeon
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North by Northwest
Casino cash: $5836784
|
I hear what you're saying, and that might be ideal thing to do. But who do you have him sit behind? Smith, for sure in 2017, but what about 2018? I can just imagine the butthurt about that here.
|
Posts: 5,319
|
03-18-2017, 09:06 PM | #126 |
Bolton gonna knock you out
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: They Freed Kartel!!
Casino cash: $1282394
|
I don't think the Clarks really care what posters on CP think. If they did we would have a worse qb drafting record than the Browns. And speaking of the Browns... how do they ever expect to be taken seriously with those hideous ****ing colors. Jesus!!
__________________
2024 Adopt a Chief : Trent McDuffie |
Posts: 20,908
|
03-18-2017, 09:07 PM | #127 | |
Don't Tease Me
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $11047037
|
Quote:
Because no matter what happens somebody else will take it from us. Then is doesn't really matter what we do. Hilarious that the same people endlessly bitching about the Chiefs not drafting a QB are inventing reasons why would shouldn't TRY to get one. I don't think the Chiefs will ever pay a ransom to trade up and get a QB like Washington did. So that leave 2 options: 1. we just get lucky and suck in the right year and stumble across a QB. 2. we plan further ahead and take the risk necessary to make a big move. Maybe it doesn't work and we are stuck with draft another position after trading up. Has Group A always says, at least we tried. We just try again and again ... until we get one.
__________________
|
|
Posts: 95,626
|
03-18-2017, 09:11 PM | #128 |
EvOlVeD
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Blue Mountains, Australia
Casino cash: $1189868
|
it will be years before the chiefs fall off a cliff high enough up that allows them to draft that 'stud' qb. it's either late round one, early round 2 where they will find their qb. ORRRRRRRR... they stay stuck in veteran acquisitions perpetually.
__________________
KC vs DET 30-28 7/6/2024 |
Posts: 8,390
|
03-18-2017, 09:11 PM | #129 | |
Admitted Planet Junky
Join Date: Oct 2000
Casino cash: $611627
|
Quote:
Belichick did all kinds of crazy trades for future picks and was called a genius for it by some and crazy by others until they seen it working and then he was just a genius. To quote most around here if you don't have the QB the rest doesn't really matter. |
|
Posts: 19,375
|
03-18-2017, 09:12 PM | #130 | |
Don't Tease Me
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $11047037
|
Quote:
Then we take that top 10 pick along with ours and move wherever we need to move to pick the QB we want. Yes, it's a risk. At least we will be trying, instead of just sitting here with our fingers crossed hoping that Dan Marino falls in our lap.
__________________
|
|
Posts: 95,626
|
03-18-2017, 09:12 PM | #131 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $855208
|
Quote:
We're the Chiefs. We were cowards during King Carl and never drafted a QB when we sucked. After Carl we never sucked QUITE enough or in the right year to get the RIGHT guy. So we'll have to manufacture our own chances. This is the best way I know how. Take the guy with the most promise who stands a decent chance of clearing that bar given enough time and patience. Try. Just ****ing try to draft a QB for ****'s sake. |
|
Posts: 91,834
|
03-18-2017, 09:14 PM | #132 |
Admitted Planet Junky
Join Date: Oct 2000
Casino cash: $611627
|
No matter what one way or another everything is "too risky" even to those that seem to bitch about the Chiefs being risk adverse.
If you want a QB how do you plan on getting enough ammo to go get one? |
Posts: 19,375
|
03-18-2017, 09:16 PM | #133 |
EvOlVeD
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Blue Mountains, Australia
Casino cash: $1189868
|
has any team 'won' anything after giving up a bevy of picks for top draft rights?
you could argue even an andrew luck coming out of college would not have been that worthy, indy 'lucked' out that year. philly, washington to name a couple... who else, i can't recall, gave up lots of picks and they didn't fare any better? or who did give up a shit ton of picks and won big?
__________________
KC vs DET 30-28 7/6/2024 |
Posts: 8,390
|
03-18-2017, 09:18 PM | #134 | |
Don't Tease Me
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $11047037
|
Quote:
Even if we have to add a pick of our own to go along with it? We gave two 2nds and when trading a draft pick each year delayed is supposed to lower the value of the pick by one round. Alex Smith and our 3rd pick this year for Cleveland's 1st rounder next year? I know people will shred it just like they try to shred every post about everything but a trade something like that. We sign a Chase Daniel or something to start for us this year. We end up with 2 first round picks next year in a decent QB draft. at least it's a plan, a plan i doubt we have now. Doesn't matter, Reid doesn't want a young QB. We are just wasting time hoping for something that isn't going to happen.
__________________
|
|
Posts: 95,626
|
03-18-2017, 09:18 PM | #135 | |
Shit
Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
|
Quote:
Like I said all those guys may not come out next year |
|
Posts: 55,715
|
|
|