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Old 06-22-2005, 08:40 AM  
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Sampson in the lead for the RT position.
Vermeil was on 810 this morning talking about some stuff most of us already know..

Key Fox is ready to be a starter (whether he will be or not is yet to be determined)

Fredex is a talented reciever and good in traffic (per Vermeil)

Going to bring in some CB vets to try to shore things up.. Vermeil sounds like he isnt' comfortable with the current situation at CB

Waters is out of shape but Vermeil trusts that he will get back in shape.

But the eye opener to me was that he said Sampson would probably be the opening day RT... I was under the impression that it was Blacks job to lose.. but I guess Sampson is really looking good.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:40 PM   #121
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plus didn't gun recently say that he didn't have any lb's that could play last year (or something very close to that)?
Yes, I believe he did.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:42 PM   #122
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“I’ve gone from thinking I didn’t have any linebackers who could play, to the group we have now in one year,” said Cunningham. “We’ve made a lot of progress.”
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:43 PM   #123
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i think you're right about barber and maz...

and you're most likely right about fuj...

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I think Fuji is a lock to make the team. If nothing else, he provides excellent depth at the SAM. jmho
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:43 PM   #124
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You bring up an excellent point. But what does Bell being outside have to do with beating Denver?
It's another example of what I feel is Gunther's stubborness and senility. He's always been an "I" guy. Everything revolves around him.

I don't like Gunther and I haven't since he was head coach here. I'm probably seeing more in the Bell situation than is really there, but to me this looks like the same old Gunther.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:44 PM   #125
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You know, in season's past, I would be upset to see those 3 go. Now, it really wouldn't matter to me if we got rid of Maz, Barber, Browning, Fujita, Sims, Hicks, Woods, Wesley, and Warfield. There are some quality players, but those names scream last place D.
you're right that those names, as a group, scream last place d...

that's obvious to everyone...

but you can't replace an entire d in one offseason...

salary cap, limitations on bonus money available, etc.

overall, the braintrust did an excellent job of overhauling the d...

but some of last year's players are going to have to play this year, so let it be the ones who suck the least...
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:51 PM   #126
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I think Fuji is a lock to make the team. If nothing else, he provides excellent depth at the SAM. jmho
oh, i agree that fuj would make a decent back-up to johnson...

but for the reasons i mentioned earlier, i would not be surprised to see them let fuj go, especially if fox shows the ability to play both olb spots and does well in camp...

hell, who knows (calling roy, calling roy)? scanlon might turn out to be a decent backup at all 3 spots...

and cb and dl and probably wr in a pinch...
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:55 PM   #127
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It's another example of what I feel is Gunther's stubborness and senility. He's always been an "I" guy. Everything revolves around him.

I don't like Gunther and I haven't since he was head coach here. I'm probably seeing more in the Bell situation than is really there, but to me this looks like the same old Gunther.
you're probably right about gun being stubborn...

but it's all right with me if he is stubborn and even if he's just an average dc...

so long as he produces at least an average defense that occasionally takes the ball away, our offense should win a lot of games, even against the better (play-off) teams...

i'm thinking this might be a very exciting season... [panting with anticipation smilie]
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:08 PM   #128
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You know, in season's past, I would be upset to see those 3 go. Now, it really wouldn't matter to me if we got rid of Maz, Barber, Browning, Fujita, Sims, Hicks, Woods, Wesley, and Warfield. There are some quality players, but those names scream last place D.
Which is why I SCREAMED when most were re-signed to new deals following the '03 season. Easily one of the dumbest moves by any team ever.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:47 PM   #129
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Vermeil was on 810 this morning talking about some stuff most of us already know..

Key Fox is ready to be a starter (whether he will be or not is yet to be determined)

Fredex is a talented reciever and good in traffic (per Vermeil)

Going to bring in some CB vets to try to shore things up.. Vermeil sounds like he isnt' comfortable with the current situation at CB

Waters is out of shape but Vermeil trusts that he will get back in shape.

But the eye opener to me was that he said Sampson would probably be the opening day RT... I was under the impression that it was Blacks job to lose.. but I guess Sampson is really looking good.
I think Black is going to back up Roaf at the LT position. Isn't he? It'd sure be nice if some of the O Linemen we've been drafting the last 3-4 years would turn up Aces like Waters did.(I know he was an undrafted FA pick-up) But still.....

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Old 06-22-2005, 03:50 PM   #130
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I think Black is going to back up Roaf at the LT position. Isn't he? It'd sure be nice if some of the O Linemen we've been drafting the last 3-4 years would turn up Aces like Waters did.(I know he was an undrafted FA pick-up) But still.....

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Sampson played it last preseason and he held his own. He looked much better than Williams who played LT worst than anyone I've ver seen at any level.
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Black needs to be ready to step in at LT in case, God forbid, Willie goes down.

Having Sampson beat Black out for the RT spot may be a very good thing.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:58 PM   #132
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It's another example of what I feel is Gunther's stubborness and senility.
Senile? He isn't that old, is he?

I can't believe most people in this thread are ignoring Waters being out of shape. I'm kinda disappointed in the guy.
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Senile? He isn't that old, is he?

I can't believe most people in this thread are ignoring Waters being out of shape. I'm kinda disappointed in the guy.
He's earned it. They work so hard in Training camp, Waters will be back in shape in no time.
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Senile? He isn't that old, is he?

I can't believe most people in this thread are ignoring Waters being out of shape. I'm kinda disappointed in the guy.
I think people are ignoring it because most reports are that it's not true.

Several teammates and media members have said the Waters is in pretty good shape. Only Vermeil has said otherwise. Just another "diaper" incident probably.
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Black needs to be ready to step in at LT in case, God forbid, Willie goes down.

Having Sampson beat Black out for the RT spot may be a very good thing.
This is only speculation, but could this be a case where Black is really developing into a solid LT prospect, and because the mechanics of LT and RT are a little different, and the coaches don't want to mess with the mechanics of a young up and comer in case he is needed to replace Roaf sooner than expected.
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