Croyle deserves the Roethlisberger treatment

['Hamas' Jenkins]

And no, I don't mean breaking his face on someone's bumper.

I still think that this team will do more to help itself in the long run if Brodie is our starter.

I think that most of us are willing to admit that our two weak links on offense today were Kyle Turley and Huard. Huard made ok decisions for the most part, but he still checked down too much, IMO, and he made some really poor throws. Turley got his bitch ass yanked, and for the future of the franchise, hopefully Huard's time is soon.

Croyle will make mistakes, but Huard isn't exactly giving us Montana-like precision either. We have two options in the passing game, which is perfect for a young QB. If he can't find D-Bowe or Tony, he can check down, and his arm and legs allow us to do things we can't with Huard.

If we can let Brodie be a game-managing QB this year (which is essentially what Huard is), then we might be able to be competitive for several years.

[DaneMcCloud]

Great idea!

First, the Chief need to sign Tommy Maddox and as soon as he's injured, they can put in Croyle!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Great idea!

First, the Chief need to sign Tommy Maddox and as soon as he's injured, they can put in Croyle!

What are we doing with Huard right now offense-wise that we can't do with Brodie?

What can we do with Brodie that we can't do with Damon?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What are we doing with Huard right now offense-wise that we can't do with Brodie?

What can we do with Brodie that we can't do with Damon?

I don't know. And neither do you.

Croyle couldn't beat out Huard in mini-camp, OTA's and training camp. He's obviously not ready to lead the Chiefs.

No amount of bitching will get him on the field. Huard will either have to perform poorly or be injured. Rooting for either is very unsportsman-like and very uncool.

Croyle will be the starting QB in 2008. That much is certain. In the meantime, how about enjoying a few Chiefs victories?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't know. And neither do you.

Croyle couldn't beat out Huard in mini-camp, OTA's and training camp. He's obviously not ready to lead the Chiefs.

No amount of bitching will get him on the field. Huard will either have to perform poorly or be injured. Rooting for either is very unsportsman-like and very uncool.

Croyle will be the starting QB in 2008. That much is certain. In the meantime, how about enjoying a few Chiefs victories?

Hey man, I'm aglow about the victory, but I'm also greedy. I don't want these kinds of nice regular season wins to define us. I want playoff wins. We might...might..have that in Croyle. We probably don't in Huard.

[Scorp]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Croyle couldn't beat out Huard in mini-camp, OTA's and training camp. He's obviously not ready to lead the Chiefs.

I disagree, I believe King Carl made the decision on this. According to what we saw on hard knocks, Croyle was Herm's choice.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Scorp

I disagree, I believe King Carl made the decision on this. According to what we saw on hard knocks, Croyle was Herm's choice.

So you think that Croyle actually WON the job (with his pitiful performances in the pre-season) but Carl over-ruled Herm's decision?

Nonsense. Anyone who actually WATCHED every series that Croyle directed KNOWS he's not ready.

Is there promise? Yes. He has a rocket arm but he consistently made bad decisions. Hopefully, his decision making will improve. But at this point, he's unproven and a switch at this time would be unwarranted.

And if you can't prove yourself in the pre-season facing "vanilla" defenses, you're in trouble when the games really start.

[GarySpFc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't know. And neither do you.

Croyle couldn't beat out Huard in mini-camp, OTA's and training camp. He's obviously not ready to lead the Chiefs.

No amount of bitching will get him on the field. Huard will either have to perform poorly or be injured. Rooting for either is very unsportsman-like and very uncool.

Croyle will be the starting QB in 2008. That much is certain. In the meantime, how about enjoying a few Chiefs victories?

Go back and read the training camp reports. Croyle beat Huard out hands down in training camp. It was during the preseason games that Croyle lost the starting position.

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by GarySpFc

Go back and read the training camp reports. Croyle beat Huard out hands down in training camp. It was during the preseason games that Croyle lost the starting position.

And, if you ask me, he shouldn't have lost it with his pre-season play either. Huard wasn't any better. I still would rather have Croyle in there than Huard but this win does make me feel better about Huard starting. Hopefully I'll be eating crow in December. I won't mind too much.

[RedThat]

Huard has REALLY impressed me in the 2nd half of these last 2 games.

A lot of people want Croyle, but hey lets give Damon some credit here. He's looked great in the 2nd half in the last 2 games that should tell us something?

he can play well under pressure and responds. I don't think anyone can say he hasn't been an intergral part of our last 2 wins because he has.

Other than that one pick in the 2nd half today by SD, which imo was a great defensive play, well read...He played well.

As for the RT, Turley. Yeah he needs to go. RT is more of a concern on this team right now than the QB is imo.

[talastan]

Already bought my Croyle jersey, gotta support my adopted Chief and his wife!!

Seriously I agree with you on this one Hamas. I think this new "Air Herm" offense would benefit from having a more mobile and faster throwing QB. With Huard play today he showed some prowess, but with Brodie you get something that Huard lacks, Speed. Both in his mobility and in his zipping passes.

[Buehler445]

I agree. Add in the fact that Huard is turning the ball over a lot...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I agree. Add in the fact that Huard is turning the ball over a lot...

Huard has five interceptions, but two of them are on the receivers. He's not turning it over "a lot." And he fumbled for the first time today.

[Hammock Parties]

How did Huard check down too much? The running backs caught a total of four passes. And LJ was so wide open on one he took it for 14 yards, clearly a wise decision by Huard.

I don't think he's a weak link at all. Roethlisberger succeeded early because the Steelers had a DOMINANT offensive line and running game...right now we don't have that. We need a guy that can throw it 30 times a game and execute a balanced gameplan. Croyle's gonna need to be eased in a little more.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

How did Huard check down too much? The running backs caught a total of four passes. And LJ was so wide open on one he took it for 14 yards, clearly a wise decision by Huard.

I don't think he's a weak link at all. Roethlisberger succeeded early because the Steelers had a DOMINANT offensive line and running game...right now we don't have that. We need a guy that can throw it 30 times a game and execute a balanced gameplan. Croyle's gonna need to be eased in a little more.

It's not just completions, it's where he looks to throw. There was one swing pass on 3rd and 8 I believe...He hit his fifth step, looked at his primary, then immediately tried to swing it out (incomplete).

HE does entirely too much of that shit.

I'm not saying we need to run the same style of team as Pitt, you're taking this too literally. I think we need to develop Brodie as a game manager this year and then unleash him next year.

We still can't open it up with Huard due to his limitations. It's readily obvious. He had one long completion that was through the air, and that was a poor decision on the lob to Tony. The rest of the stuff was remarkable YAC work on short passes. Brodie can do that shit just as well, and learn while he's doing it.