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Old 12-28-2007, 12:25 PM  
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Is Clark even aware?

Would he care if he were aware? I'm wondering if we need to tattle on the idiots over at Arrowhead.

I haven't the time, but maybe if someone were to print all the kcchiefs.com columns in which Chiefs fans are insulted and degraded and highlight the specific lines that seem over-the-top. Send it to Clark in Dallas or where ever he's residing these days. Perhaps that would impact his offseason decisions.

Insulting the fan-base is so chicken-shit it's embarrassing. I wonder what would happen if I started insulting my customers two or three times a week. These homeowners are so stupid they don't deserve to even own homes. Wow.

Is this a dumb idea?

I think the behavior coming out of One Arrowhead is just pathetic. I've followed the Chiefs and NFL in general for as long as I've had access to a television. But I'm very quickly being driven to watch Saturday football and it has little to do with how badly my Chiefs are performing.
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:56 PM   #121
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:07 PM   #122
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FWIW, here's the letter I emailed CH a couple of years ago, and his reply:

Our letter of January 6, 06:

Dear Mr. Hunt,

Due to the urgency of this letter we have chosen electronic mail in order to expedite contacting you about the following matter. Please accept our apologies. We the undersigned represent merely the tip of the giant iceberg that is the community of Kansas City Chiefs devoted fans and supporters. We recognize and appreciate the greatness of the gift that your father Mr. Lamar Hunt brought to us decades ago. We recognize and appreciate the class organization that your father, as the owner of the Chiefs, has maintained. And, We recognize and appreciate your family’s affection and concern for Kansas City that transcends sports.

In the spirit of the said class we are sad to lose to retirement one of the classiest coaches in the history of the NFL. Mr. Vermeil brought us a team to be proud of and an offensive system that is legendary. We recognize and appreciate the contributions of Mr. Carl Peterson to the creation of this team, that, if not for a string of bad luck and occasional shortcomings of a young and improving defense, would be a Super Bowl favorite.

As you have taken an active role in the operation of the Chiefs, we would like to bring the following concern to your capable attention:

The current edition of the Kansas City Chiefs is only a few minor adjustments away from greatness. The offense is prolific and the defense is on its way to respectability. With that in mind, we feel stability in the coaching transition is absolutely necessary. While there may be qualified candidates outside of the Chiefs organization, we feel that by far the best candidate to carry on the Vermeil legacy and the great offensive tradition is Al Saunders. Al is a proven coach with extensive experience in all facets of coaching in the NFL. The concern that prompted us to write you is the disappointing rumor that Mr. Peterson may be looking for someone more expressively subordinate to himself for the position of the Chiefs head coach. We hope these rumors are untrue, but we appeal to your sense of leadership to step in to find out if there is substance to the rumor and, if so, to stop personal practices by which a potentially brilliant head coach might be lost to other competitors. We trust your leadership will prove priceless in preventing the dismantling of the best offensive system the Chiefs have ever had and derailing the defensive development that is in progress.

Respectfully yours,
(Names protected)


And here's his response of MARCH 20, 06!!:

Dear Friends of the Chiefs:

Thank you for your interest in the future of the Chiefs. It is my firm belief that the foundation of the team begins with the support and dedication of the fans and the people of Kansas City . It is an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan as we look forward to the 2006 season.

The last couple of months have marked a period of transition for our organization. While we are sad to see Coach Vermeil and Carol retire from the sport of football, we wish them well and thank them for five great years of remarkable service to the organization, the fans and the Kansas City community.

As you are no doubt aware, in addition to the departure of Dick and Carol, Al Saunders, our offensive coordinator for the last five years, left to become the offensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins. Al is a great coach who is loved by colleagues and fans alike. We know he will do an outstanding job in Washington .

But as we send our warmest well wishes to our departing coaches, we look toward the future with great anticipation. We are excited to enter the Herman Edwards era. Coach Edwards is a proven winner, and his intensity, leadership and passion for excellence are a perfect fit for the Chiefs. He has assembled a strong coaching staff comprised of veterans and energetic young talent which we feel will compliment our players on the field and in the locker room.

We look forward to great things in the future. On behalf of the entire Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, I thank you for your interest and continued support.


Sincerely,



Clark K. Hunt
Chairman



As you see it took 2.5 months to get his response. AFTER the deed was done already.
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:49 PM   #123
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19 years isn't enough, he needs 30 years to truly unleash his master plan. So every team in the league can go to a Bowl but him in his tenure..

At this point I think I'll see a Browns/Cardinals Superbowl before I ever see the Chiefs there.
If I thought there was a danger that he might be here 11 more years, I might have a different opinion about whether he should be fired in the near future, but I don't. I expect that he's got 2 years left and I can handle that.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:40 PM   #124
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Apparently the list of idiot homers begins with...

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Wow, internet insults. It doesn't take much guts to call someone an idiot on the internet. Any coward can do it.......
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:45 PM   #125
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If I thought there was a danger that he might be here 11 more years, I might have a different opinion about whether he should be fired in the near future, but I don't. I expect that he's got 2 years left and I can handle that.
I think Petersen should be fired on Monday. His hires and drafts (which he lords over like Jerry Jones) have been disasters since the 90's- Matt Blundin, Mike Elkins, Trezelle Jenkins, Ryan Sims, these are just a few of the awful lowlights that he and his guys have managed. The John Tait negotiations - total disaster in the media and then later in free agency when we lost him (The poison pill situation only existed because Tait hated Carl), Vermeil's abuse of the Defense - Disaster. The Marty Ball meltdown on Monday night football - the beginning of the end. On top of all of this Carl is not a likable guy. He's a PR mans nightmare and I have no doubt that he is held in contempt by agents and peers throughout the league. His time has come and gone.

I'll give Carl props for bringing in Marty, making money and fostering the tailgating spirit at Arrowhead. I'll also give him credit for his loyalty to the Hunts but he deserves to be fired for his organizations lack of on field performance for the past decade.

To Patteeu's point that Carl and by extension Herm are just as good or better than any generic GM and Coach out there I have to disagree. It is the job of every Football owner to have a constantly updating list of hot GM candidates and coaches in both the College and NFL ranks. If the Hunt's don't have at least two or three candidates who they know they could contact then they are asleep at the proverbial wheel as the leaders/owners of the KC Chiefs.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:51 PM   #126
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Clark does not care people.
To be honest, I don't care if he cares about the fans or not. I just want him to care about winning a SB!!!
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:52 PM   #127
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I have access to Clark Hunt through a third party, and I know he reads my stuff from time to time. I could do it.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:53 PM   #128
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To be honest, I don't care if he cares about the fans or not. I just want him to care about winning a SB!!!


Same here.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:56 PM   #129
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I think the Chiefs care far more about making money than they do about winning Superbowls.

I think they care more where they rate in Forbes in value of NFL franchises than they do in Superbowl championships.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:59 PM   #131
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:01 PM   #132
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:05 PM   #133
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FWIW, here's the letter I emailed CH a couple of years ago, and his reply:

Our letter of January 6, 06:

Dear Mr. Hunt,

Due to the urgency of this letter we have chosen electronic mail in order to expedite contacting you about the following matter. Please accept our apologies. We the undersigned represent merely the tip of the giant iceberg that is the community of Kansas City Chiefs devoted fans and supporters. We recognize and appreciate the greatness of the gift that your father Mr. Lamar Hunt brought to us decades ago. We recognize and appreciate the class organization that your father, as the owner of the Chiefs, has maintained. And, We recognize and appreciate your family’s affection and concern for Kansas City that transcends sports.

In the spirit of the said class we are sad to lose to retirement one of the classiest coaches in the history of the NFL. Mr. Vermeil brought us a team to be proud of and an offensive system that is legendary. We recognize and appreciate the contributions of Mr. Carl Peterson to the creation of this team, that, if not for a string of bad luck and occasional shortcomings of a young and improving defense, would be a Super Bowl favorite.

As you have taken an active role in the operation of the Chiefs, we would like to bring the following concern to your capable attention:

The current edition of the Kansas City Chiefs is only a few minor adjustments away from greatness. The offense is prolific and the defense is on its way to respectability. With that in mind, we feel stability in the coaching transition is absolutely necessary. While there may be qualified candidates outside of the Chiefs organization, we feel that by far the best candidate to carry on the Vermeil legacy and the great offensive tradition is Al Saunders. Al is a proven coach with extensive experience in all facets of coaching in the NFL. The concern that prompted us to write you is the disappointing rumor that Mr. Peterson may be looking for someone more expressively subordinate to himself for the position of the Chiefs head coach. We hope these rumors are untrue, but we appeal to your sense of leadership to step in to find out if there is substance to the rumor and, if so, to stop personal practices by which a potentially brilliant head coach might be lost to other competitors. We trust your leadership will prove priceless in preventing the dismantling of the best offensive system the Chiefs have ever had and derailing the defensive development that is in progress.

Respectfully yours,
(Names protected)


And here's his response of MARCH 20, 06!!:

Dear Friends of the Chiefs:

Thank you for your interest in the future of the Chiefs. It is my firm belief that the foundation of the team begins with the support and dedication of the fans and the people of Kansas City . It is an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan as we look forward to the 2006 season.

The last couple of months have marked a period of transition for our organization. While we are sad to see Coach Vermeil and Carol retire from the sport of football, we wish them well and thank them for five great years of remarkable service to the organization, the fans and the Kansas City community.

As you are no doubt aware, in addition to the departure of Dick and Carol, Al Saunders, our offensive coordinator for the last five years, left to become the offensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins. Al is a great coach who is loved by colleagues and fans alike. We know he will do an outstanding job in Washington .

But as we send our warmest well wishes to our departing coaches, we look toward the future with great anticipation. We are excited to enter the Herman Edwards era. Coach Edwards is a proven winner, and his intensity, leadership and passion for excellence are a perfect fit for the Chiefs. He has assembled a strong coaching staff comprised of veterans and energetic young talent which we feel will compliment our players on the field and in the locker room.

We look forward to great things in the future. On behalf of the entire Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, I thank you for your interest and continued support.


Sincerely,



Clark K. Hunt
Chairman



As you see it took 2.5 months to get his response. AFTER the deed was done already.

Wow did Carl and Herm pull the wool over his eyes.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:10 PM   #134
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If you guys wrote a letter asking for a better coach than Al Saunders you might have gotten an answer quicker. That was mistake #1. Saunders would have been worse hire than Herm by far.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:14 PM   #135
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