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Old 08-11-2008, 08:00 PM  
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Should the Chiefs have drafted Aaron Rodgers over Derrick Johnson?
Would we have been in a better position now???

Rodgers would have gotten to learn from Trent Green a few years....

Hmmmm....thoughts to ponder.



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Old 09-09-2008, 07:27 AM   #121
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I've never seen the most important position the field get devalued like it does here.
Bring in the savy vet! Lets play for 9-7 and hope that we can make some noise in the playoffs!
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:34 AM   #122
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Johnson had better value when we were drafting. He still does. Rodgers hasn't proved he can play.
Looked pretty darn good last night.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:34 AM   #123
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Bring in the savy vet! Lets play for 9-7 and hope that we can make some noise in the playoffs!
I don't think I've ever said that.....go tell one of the Huard people that one.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:56 AM   #124
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Bump....what the heck!
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:45 PM   #125
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Bump....

DJ sure looked good on that run defense today huh??
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:46 PM   #126
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Rodger is 16/19 for GB today...

Of course under Herm he'd probably just break all his bones.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:19 PM   #127
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Seen this thread a number of times, but I've put off commenting.

I like DJ, but if I could have Aaron Rogers the way he's playing, and knowing how badly we could use a QB like him right now, I might be inclined to take him instead of DJ.

However, who's to say had we taken Rogers that he'd be the QB he is today? Would he have gotten the coaching he needed to develope here? Would he have sit under and learn from one of the better QBs to ever play the game in KC? Would he have the OL and coaching staff here to allow him to play like he does in GB? I have to anser no to all those questions.

Hindsight is easy, but we have to remember the variables that influence a players ability. I don't think Aaron Rogers would be the QB he is today if we had drafted him instead of GB.


We have a good LB in DJ. With Aaron Rogers, we'd probably just have another QB we have already given up on.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:22 PM   #128
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i think this coaching could kill any QB
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:22 PM   #129
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Seen this thread a number of times, but I've put off commenting.

I like DJ, but if I could have Aaron Rogers the way he's playing, and knowing how badly we could use a QB like him right now, I might be inclined to take him instead of DJ.

However, who's to say had we taken Rogers that he'd be the QB he is today? Would he have gotten the coaching he needed to develope here? Would he have sit under and learn from one of the better QBs to ever play the game in KC? Would he have the OL and coaching staff here to allow him to play like he does in GB? I have to anser no to all those questions.

Hindsight is easy, but we have to remember the variables that influence a players ability. I don't think Aaron Rogers would be the QB he is today if we had drafted him instead of GB.


We have a good LB in DJ. With Aaron Rogers, we'd probably just have another QB we have already given up on.
DJ's average at best.

This mentality towards drafting QB's by both the Chiefs organization, their fans and the city is the main reason why the Chiefs haven't won a ****ing thing in 37 years.

The Chiefs should be drafting a QB every year or at least, every other year. Instead, they've drafted four first day QB's in 25 years.

That's why they suck and will continue to suck.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:30 PM   #130
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The point that seems to continually get missed is the VERY QUESTION in the thread title.

If it was "Who is a better player?" or "Who would you rather have right now?", there would be NO discussion.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:10 AM   #131
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Ah, I found the thread...






Deberg, I owe you an apology.

I've always thought you were certifiably insane for asking if we ****ed up by taking DJ and passing on Aaron Rodgers - even though I never said so in this thread.

But brother, I've seen the light.

I'm now on your side.

Please accept this apology, and to answer the question - yes, we ****ed up passing on Rodgers.

DJ has been an epic disappointment for the 15th overall pick.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:25 AM   #132
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DJ's average at best.

This mentality towards drafting QB's by both the Chiefs organization, their fans and the city is the main reason why the Chiefs haven't won a ****ing thing in 37 years.

The Chiefs should be drafting a QB every year or at least, every other year. Instead, they've drafted four first day QB's in 25 years.

That's why they suck and will continue to suck.
Disagree.

I think DJ's average at worst. He has enormous upside but our terrible coaching is holding him back. His biggest problem by far is that he can't tackle. In 5 years, every one of Gun's defenses have sucked, sucked, sucked at tackling.

We've never seen what he can do without Gun. I'd love to see what he can do without a Gun. DJ is actually a pretty outstanding coverage LB and I'm sick of Gun's LBs constantly overpursuing plays. Maybe I'm naive, but I think a different coordinator could get a lot more out of a talented player like DJ.
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When a guy has been in the league 4+ years, he is what he is there should be no talk of upside anymore.
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Please accept this apology, and to answer the question - yes, we ****ed up passing on Rodgers.
Only in hindsight.

In hindsight, we ****ed up by not trading for the No. 1 pick and taking Matt Ryan.

(BTW, Rodgers would be nowhere near as good as he is now on that team after having THREE ****ING YEARS to learn.)
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:53 AM   #135
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Only in hindsight.

In hindsight, we ****ed up by not trading for the No. 1 pick and taking Matt Ryan.

(BTW, Rodgers would be nowhere near as good as he is now on that team after having THREE ****ING YEARS to learn.)
Uh, no, we didn't "**** up" by not trading away every good pick we owned for Matt Ryan.

Because that's what it would have took, I've posted the pick values on here many times.

Our 1st, our 2nd and 2 of our 3rds to move up high enough to draft Ryan.

And that's just to move to #2. You're advocating moving up to #1?
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