Life UFO's.. I'm a little less skeptical now ! - Page 9

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-24-2009, 10:48 AM

I've never been a believer in UFO's but I must say Imay have witnessed one.

Last Saturday night as I left the farm and was headed to town I saw a bright light in the sky. It was just getting dark enough out that the first couple of stars were now visible. The light ,to describe it looked just like a headlight from an automobile. Same color and just a bright light. I was traveling west about 65 MPH and it was moving right along with me I'm guessing about 5 miles out. It was moving just a little faster than I was and then slowed down to where I was passing it. I really didn't think much of it. I just figured a chopper or something even though I've never remembered seeing that type of light on an aircraft.

So I focus back on the highway for a second and take a glance out the passenger side window. When I look back to the left looking for the light it was about a mile ahead of where I viewed it 10 seconds earlier. It just sat there and I caught back up to it. I thought jesus christ, that ain't right. All of the sudden that thing took off away from me at about a 45 degree angle and was gone. I watched it as it got farther and farther away the light grew smaller and dissapeared. This thing had to have gone 50 miles within 10 seconds. This was NOT a regular aircraft with a distorted view or something . This was SOMETHING! Military ? I don't know? There was no sound or vapor trail. I will remember this the rest of my life.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-24-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I'm pretty sure that the B-2 does not employ that kind of EW.

I guarantee you our military has more shit than YOU could ever imagine !

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-24-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Natural predators do not surgically remove organs and leave the meat.

And remove the blood and spinal fluid.

**Donger** · 05-24-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I guarantee you our military has more shit than YOU could ever imagine !

Fish · 05-24-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Natural predators do not surgically remove organs and leave the meat.

Of course they do. I've seen it. The meat is too difficult to get to for most scavengers. They can't tear through the hide themselves to get to the meat. So they eat the softest parts of the carcass. Which includes the ass and tongue. And the laser precision aspect has never really been proven. Like I've said, plenty of carcasses that were reported as laser precise cuts have showed up as anything but when looked at by a trained professional. You can't post anything that could be definitively caused by something other than scavengers, insects, or decomposition.

ToxSocks · 05-24-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Do you know what a radar jammer is and how it works?

Nope. And never claimed to. But i know what he told me and I know what he does and I know what i've seen, and I doubt you know half the shit that he does.

Doubt all you want, but it doesn't make you right. I'll take the word of a US gov. engineer over yours any day and twice on sunday.

DJ's left nut · 05-24-2010, 10:27 AM

People believe what they want to believe re: UFOs.

Pete clearly wants to believe it, so he continues to call these cuts 'surgical cuts' despite the fact that these have often been reviewed and debunked. The blood/spinal fluid thing has also been adressed. Folks that take this stuff as the gospel generally follow the works of cryptozoologists and other folks that have been discredited several times over.

Remember - the USAF had the Stealth at an operational level for nearly a decade before the public knew about it. Now think of how far out there some of the stuff we know about is; then consider how much other stuff is in development that we don't know about. Yeah, Area 51 probably exists and it's probably full of some seriously top-secret stuff, but I'd be willing to be the farm on the fact that it's our stuff.

Declassified documents show that the US Military hasn't been opposed to experimenting with very dangerous technologies (weather modification, invisibility, teleportation, phsycokenisis, cold fusion etc...) all of which would have major ramifications should a foreign enemy discover it. Yeah, we're gonna wanna keep that under wraps.

One has to conceptualize how big the universe actually is before they realize how infintesimally small the odds of an alien race happening upon us are. Hell, a course deviation by a trillionth of a degree from the nearest star puts that line millions of miles away from Earth by the time it gets here.

There could be a million different sentient beings out there and there is still so much empty space that the odds of them stumbling onto each other are exceptionally remote. Unless you're willing to take it to the level of 'omniscient' alien beings that are able to simply sense our presence and have taken to studying us for poops and giggles, I just don't see how one can truly buy the idea that aliens have steadily made their presence known here.

**Donger** · 05-24-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Nope. And never claimed to. But i know what he told me and I know what he does and I know what i've seen, and I doubt you know half the shit that he does.

Doubt all you want, but it doesn't make you right. I'll take the word of a US gov. engineer over yours any day and twice on sunday.

Actually, I'd ask him (if I were you) to confirm that the B-2 has any radar jamming capability at all. Also, ask him if he worked on developing the RAM, instead.

Otter · 05-24-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Nope. And never claimed to. But i know what he told me and I know what he does and I know what i've seen, and I doubt you know half the shit that he does.

Doubt all you want, but it doesn't make you right. I'll take the word of a US gov. engineer over yours any day and twice on sunday.

Hehe, I take it you don't work for the government.

Radar jamming is highly ineffective because the jamming mechanism can be rendered useless by changing the frequency by on the transmitter (the 'looking' side) by a decimal. Stealth technology is highly more effective.

An engineer who develops radar jammers post 1965ish if the equivalent of a typewriter repairman.

ToxSocks · 05-24-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Hehe, I take it you don't work for the government.

Radar jamming is highly ineffective because the jamming mechanism can be rendered useless by changing the frequency by on the transmitter (the 'looking' side) by a decimal. Stealth technology is highly more effective.

An engineer who develops radar jammers post 1965ish if the equivalent of a typewriter repairman.

Shrug, that's just what he called it. What it does or how it worked, I have no idea.

Otter · 05-24-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Shrug, that's just what he called it. What it does or how it worked, I have no idea.

May have just been a mis-communication.

Engineers can't get a jammer to work effectively against the ones the police hold out their window and point at your car because of the instant on/off and subtle changes in frequency let alone military grade.

I'll shut up now.

ToxSocks · 05-24-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

May have just been a mis-communication.

Engineers can't get a jammer to work effectively against the ones the police hold out their window and point at your car because of the instant on/off and subtle changes in frequency let alone military grade.

I'll shut up now.

Whatever it was, All I know is it was a small device, maybe the size of a large AC compressor designed to help the plane not be detected by Radar. How it works, the specific name of it, I dont know. All i know is the guy is a NASA engineer, he was the leader of a team of 3 people who designed it and has a picture of himself installing it under the plane.

**Donger** · 05-24-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Whatever it was, All I know is it was a small device, maybe the size of a large AC compressor designed to help the plane not be detected by Radar. How it works, the specific name of it, I dont know. All i know is the guy is a NASA engineer, he was the leader of a team of 3 people who designed it and has a picture of himself installing it under the plane.

Are you sure it was the B-2 and not the F-117?

Otter · 05-24-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Are you sure it was the B-2 and not the F-117?

Is jamming still used effectively?

**Donger** · 05-24-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Is jamming still used effectively?

I don't know.

Otter · 05-24-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know.

I was under the impression it was deemed ineffective due to the simple countermeasures. I'm not electronic warfare specialist either so take with a grain of salt Detoxing.

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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1459523	UFO's.. I'm a little less skeptical now ! I've never been a believer in UFO's but I must say Imay have witnessed one. Last Saturday night as I left the farm and was headed to town I saw a bright light in the sky. It was just getting dark enough out that the first couple of stars were now visible. The light ,to describe it looked just like a headlight from an automobile. Same color and just a bright light. I was traveling west about 65 MPH and it was moving right along with me I'm guessing about 5 miles out. It was moving just a little faster than I was and then slowed down to where I was passing it. I really didn't think much of it. I just figured a chopper or something even though I've never remembered seeing that type of light on an aircraft. So I focus back on the highway for a second and take a glance out the passenger side window. When I look back to the left looking for the light it was about a mile ahead of where I viewed it 10 seconds earlier. It just sat there and I caught back up to it. I thought jesus christ, that ain't right. All of the sudden that thing took off away from me at about a 45 degree angle and was gone. I watched it as it got farther and farther away the light grew smaller and dissapeared. This thing had to have gone 50 miles within 10 seconds. This was NOT a regular aircraft with a distorted view or something . This was SOMETHING! Military ? I don't know? There was no sound or vapor trail. I will remember this the rest of my life.
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05-24-2010, 10:27 AM	#126
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-680901	People believe what they want to believe re: UFOs. Pete clearly wants to believe it, so he continues to call these cuts 'surgical cuts' despite the fact that these have often been reviewed and debunked. The blood/spinal fluid thing has also been adressed. Folks that take this stuff as the gospel generally follow the works of cryptozoologists and other folks that have been discredited several times over. Remember - the USAF had the Stealth at an operational level for nearly a decade before the public knew about it. Now think of how far out there some of the stuff we know about is; then consider how much other stuff is in development that we don't know about. Yeah, Area 51 probably exists and it's probably full of some seriously top-secret stuff, but I'd be willing to be the farm on the fact that it's our stuff. Declassified documents show that the US Military hasn't been opposed to experimenting with very dangerous technologies (weather modification, invisibility, teleportation, phsycokenisis, cold fusion etc...) all of which would have major ramifications should a foreign enemy discover it. Yeah, we're gonna wanna keep that under wraps. One has to conceptualize how big the universe actually is before they realize how infintesimally small the odds of an alien race happening upon us are. Hell, a course deviation by a trillionth of a degree from the nearest star puts that line millions of miles away from Earth by the time it gets here. There could be a million different sentient beings out there and there is still so much empty space that the odds of them stumbling onto each other are exceptionally remote. Unless you're willing to take it to the level of 'omniscient' alien beings that are able to simply sense our presence and have taken to studying us for poops and giggles, I just don't see how one can truly buy the idea that aliens have steadily made their presence known here. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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