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Old 08-05-2010, 11:04 PM   #1
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:12 PM   #2
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So Dane I am responsible for 20% of the jobs lost due to me downloading less than 4 movies and copying the ones I have from DVD to my laptop? Along with som random hairbands from the 80's that barely have music available anymore?

I would imagine that on a scale of 1 to 10. I would be consider a .25. It was cute that they sent me a letter and all. But honestly. I don't give a flip. I think there is a better chance of you cussing someone out here than me downloading enough music or movies to bother someone.

It used to be cool and fun to get around the stuff to get the movies or songs. But honestly there are cooler things to mess with in the underground world than piracy.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:18 PM   #3
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So Dane I am responsible for 20% of the jobs lost due to me downloading less than 4 movies and copying the ones I have from DVD to my laptop? Along with som random hairbands from the 80's that barely have music available anymore?

I would imagine that on a scale of 1 to 10. I would be consider a .25. It was cute that they sent me a letter and all. But honestly. I don't give a flip. I think there is a better chance of you cussing someone out here than me downloading enough music or movies to bother someone.

It used to be cool and fun to get around the stuff to get the movies or songs. But honestly there are cooler things to mess with in the underground world than piracy.
actually to be fair dane isn't fighting you as much as he's fighting the mentality that content is free I just need to go on the internet to find it. That's the issue, regardless of how many you download.

Now the reality is the industry is going to have to change with the times, but the truth is it will be extremely slow to do so. It's the nature of the beast.

Now on to the other point about but but it's just 1. Sure it is and the impact of you downloading one video is meaningless. But the impact of 1 million people each downloading 1 video....that starts to be real dollars and cents.... It's like voting. One vote is meaningless. 1 million votes is power.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:24 PM   #4
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actually to be fair dane isn't fighting you as much as he's fighting the mentality that content is free I just need to go on the internet to find it. That's the issue, regardless of how many you download.

Now the reality is the industry is going to have to change with the times, but the truth is it will be extremely slow to do so. It's the nature of the beast.

Now on to the other point about but but it's just 1. Sure it is and the impact of you downloading one video is meaningless. But the impact of 1 million people each downloading 1 video....that starts to be real dollars and cents.... It's like voting. One vote is meaningless. 1 million votes is power.
I understand the concept and how it effects the industry and people. That is why it costs my family 60$ to go watch a movie anymore.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:13 PM   #5
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There have been several posts in this thread that try to justify the stealing, but it's all stupidity. Stealing is stealing. "I buy more than I steal" doesn't really make it OK to steal. I actually read that in this thread.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:22 PM   #6
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Dane. Let me ask u this? Have you ever watched any of go chiefs videos? Or the classic chiefs games in it's game thread? If so, you are In Violation of copyright laws. Watching film footage that is rebroadcasted without consent is the same damn thing.

Don't u agree. What about the networks? Should they be getting paid for your viewing of gifs, videos, or someones highlights for pre drafting.

Just saying.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:37 PM   #7
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Dane. Let me ask u this? Have you ever watched any of go chiefs videos? Or the classic chiefs games in it's game thread?
Quite honestly the answer is no. Never.

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If so, you are In Violation of copyright laws. Watching film footage that is rebroadcasted without consent is the same damn thing.
I am fully aware of IP laws, since I administered IP and copyrights for more than a decade at both Universal and Paramount.

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Just saying.
What you're doing is trying to justify stealing. You're a thief, plain and simple.

Just sayin'.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:45 PM   #8
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Quite honestly the answer is no. Never.



I am fully aware of IP laws, since I administered IP and copyrights for more than a decade at both Universal and Paramount.



What you're doing is trying to justify stealing. You're a thief, plain and simple.

Just sayin'.
But you didn't deny the fact that you have watched highlight videos or other videos that were put together by members of this board or other draft sites etc.

You van call me what you want I don't give a shit. But you actig like your perfect is laughable at best. When you k ow damn well you have watched videos here or other sites that were not legal in a legal sense.

Call me a thief or an asshole or what ever you chose. I know I have downloaded stuff and watched it or listened to it at times for years. But to say your not guilty is pretty funny. You better block all animated gifs of football plays in peoples signatures and avatars.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:53 PM   #9
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But you didn't deny the fact that you have watched highlight videos or other videos that were put together by members of this board or other draft sites etc.
What the **** is wrong with you?

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You van call me what you want I don't give a shit. But you actig like your perfect is laughable at best. When you k ow damn well you have watched videos here or other sites that were not legal in a legal sense.
Dude, what the **** is wrong with you? I've never illegally downloaded music and I've never illegally downloaded a movie. I can't even watch Youtube on my main computer because the wireless router is three floors down and separated by concrete and steel.

Stop trying to justify YOUR actions by trying to insult me or my character.

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Call me a thief or an asshole or what ever you chose. I know I have downloaded stuff and watched it or listened to it at times for years. But to say your not guilty is pretty funny. You better block all animated gifs of football plays in peoples signatures and avatars.
Actually, all signatures ARE blocked. And again, you're trying to justify your actions.

Furthermore, I don't visit this site to see someone's avatar. But you've illegally downloaded movies and music (and admitted it) for your own personal gain.

First, you need to shut the **** up. Secondly, you need to take a long, hard look into the mirror because you're far too old to be rationalizing or justifying illegal activity.
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:59 AM   #10
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What the **** is wrong with you?



Dude, what the **** is wrong with you? I've never illegally downloaded music and I've never illegally downloaded a movie. I can't even watch Youtube on my main computer because the wireless router is three floors down and separated by concrete and steel.

Stop trying to justify YOUR actions by trying to insult me or my character.



Actually, all signatures ARE blocked. And again, you're trying to justify your actions.

Furthermore, I don't visit this site to see someone's avatar. But you've illegally downloaded movies and music (and admitted it) for your own personal gain.

First, you need to shut the **** up. Secondly, you need to take a long, hard look into the mirror because you're far too old to be rationalizing or justifying illegal activity.


Thanks for your guiding light Dane and thanks for making an example out of me for the whole world to see what a bad person I am and how not to do bad things...

This has been fun, but I am done with the justification and rationalizing my actions for all my illegal activity... I cant compete with perfection...
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:54 PM   #11
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But you didn't deny the fact that you have watched highlight videos or other videos that were put together by members of this board or other draft sites etc.

You van call me what you want I don't give a shit. But you actig like your perfect is laughable at best. When you k ow damn well you have watched videos here or other sites that were not legal in a legal sense.

Call me a thief or an asshole or what ever you chose. I know I have downloaded stuff and watched it or listened to it at times for years. But to say your not guilty is pretty funny. You better block all animated gifs of football plays in peoples signatures and avatars.
that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:55 PM   #12
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that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?
No, he's just drinking $40 dollar bottles of Scotch while defending his actions for not paying $.99 cents for a ****ing movie or TV show.
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:40 AM   #13
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that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?
Actually this site is not very user friendly with Iphones, I was typing that on my phone late last night half a sleep.

Its bulky and hard to use on mobile devices.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:26 PM   #14
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:58 PM   #15
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I don't know if times have changed, but while I don't support piracy or illegal download (I buy all my shit on iTunes/Amazon, no matter how expensive), here's one thing that always bothered me. It would be one thing if I felt like I was stealing from the musicians, but in most cases, the musicians don't see a dime of your money anyway. Dane, correct me if I'm wrong, because you know the industry. But the impression I get is that if a musician isn't going to make money, they'll want to be heard. A lot of bands used to encourage bootlegging because they know that viral marketing is a hell of a lot more effective than forcing consumers to pay $1 per song just to listen to a track.
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