Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 9

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

**Bearcat** · 10-17-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It was a brilliant play call.

Too bad every play call requires execution.

The product of a brilliant play call looks something like an offensive lineman escorting your quarterback 70 yards for the touchdown because everyone in the stadium expected a run up the gut..... that didn't quite happen, as the Texans had it covered.

An inept QB throwing to a covered TE against a worn down defense that's given up 230 yards rushing is not brilliant, and you know it.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

The product of a brilliant play call looks something like an offensive lineman escorting your quarterback 70 yards for the touchdown because everyone in the stadium expected a run up the gut..... that didn't quite happen, as the Texans had it covered.

An inept QB throwing to a covered TE against a worn down defense that's given up 230 yards rushing is not brilliant, and you know it.

At least someone uses their brain!!!

**dirk digler** · 10-17-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Why are you ignoring the fact that the play call worked?

It didn't work and was a horrible call.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Cassel played a fine game today, but there are people that ignored posting about that during the game only to criticize at the end.

He did play a fine game. To bad he choked at the end.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

It didn't work and was a horrible call.

Its a genius call if its converted, though. Right?

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:36 PM

In my mind, the mistakes Cassel made were:

1. Missing a wide open receiver on the sideline on the last drive
2. Having to use a timeout to avoid a delay of game
3. Throwing a horrible screen pass off McCluster's helmet

milkman · 10-17-2010, 04:37 PM

Once again, tell me how many third and short yardage situations the Chiefs converted by running the ball?

The PA pass is a good play call.

A good pass to a TE that has the safety shielded is a win on that play.

A QB who sees the entire field is a win on that play.

I am in no way blaming Cassel for the loss.

This was a team effort.

But as Hamas points out, that play illustrates the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD

Its a genius call if its converted, though. Right?

Yes, the play is a great call because it COULD HAVE WORKED IF MOEAKI HAD MADE AN AMAZING PLAY TO WARD OFF WILSON AND CATCH THE BALL, but we hadn't been running the ball well all day, so I understand why they resorted to trickeration

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

Damn, 122 QB rating

You're ****ing stupid.

Cassel is paid $15 million dollars a year to WIN games for the Chiefs, not shit the bed.

He shit the bed on the final possession, plain and simple.

**dirk digler** · 10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD

Its a genius call if its converted, though. Right?

It would have been looked like a risky call.

It was a high reward high risk play. The safe play would have to run it or throw a safe pass. You just need 2 yds not 30

milkman · 10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

Yes, the play is a great call because it COULD HAVE WORKED IF MOEAKI HAD MADE AN AMAZING PLAY TO WARD OFF WILSON AND CATCH THE BALL, but we hadn't been running the ball well all day, so I understand why they resorted to trickeration

How many third and short yardage situations had they converted by running the ball?

The Texans had stuffed us on nearly every third and short run throughout the game.

Almost every third down conversion came via the pass.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're ****ing stupid.

Cassel is paid $15 million dollars a year to WIN games for the Chiefs, not shit the bed.

He shit the bed on the final possession, plain and simple.

Glenn Dorsey (pick a high paid Chiefs defender here) gets paid 13 million a year to let them score 21 fourth quarter points and not make a single play to win the game. He shit the bed the entire fourth quarter

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It would have been looked like a risky call.

It was a high reward high risk play. The safe play would have to run it or throw a safe pass. You just need 2 yds not 30

So Matt Cassel converts a ton of passes and that is held against him as to why it is a good call later in the game????

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

Glenn Dorsey (pick a high paid Chiefs defender here) gets paid 13 million a year to let them score 21 fourth quarter points and not make a single play to win the game. He shit the bed the entire fourth quarter

Oh, just shut the **** up.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, just shut the **** up.

**** you bitch

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7269572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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KC kid Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $10004940	In my mind, the mistakes Cassel made were: 1. Missing a wide open receiver on the sideline on the last drive 2. Having to use a timeout to avoid a delay of game 3. Throwing a horrible screen pass off McCluster's helmet
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Once again, tell me how many third and short yardage situations the Chiefs converted by running the ball? The PA pass is a good play call. A good pass to a TE that has the safety shielded is a win on that play. A QB who sees the entire field is a win on that play. I am in no way blaming Cassel for the loss. This was a team effort. But as Hamas points out, that play illustrates the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. __________________
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