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Old 12-05-2010, 03:08 PM  
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Barry Richardson

Dude sucks. He was the main reason the offense went into the toilet today. Couldn't run block, couldn't pass block. Got his ass whipped 1 on 1 all day.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:36 PM   #121
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There were other people running on the field with him at the same time. How would he have been too late and not the others?
Once again, because the rest of the offense (and the entire team for that matter) was down at that end of the field. In order for Richardson to have made it he'd have had to run from the opposite side of the field (where he ended up all by himself after his tantrum) so they gave up on him.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:37 PM   #122
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Because they were in 4 down mode and knew they were going for it. Not confused at all. That was my theory when it happened live and Haley confirmed it (that they were in 4 down mode) in the post-game press conference.
Why were they "headed onto the field" if they were already out there for the third down?
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:40 PM   #123
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There were other people running on the field with him at the same time. How would he have been too late and not the others?
Richardson got pulled back at like midfield, and all the other players were down around the 25-30.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:41 PM   #124
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Why were they "headed onto the field" if they were already out there for the third down?
Man, I guess I have to be extremely literal around here. I don't mean that as if every single player was standing on the sideline and had to run back onto the field. There were players everywhere...on that end of the field...where the action was going on. Richardson's tantrum put him all the way on the opposite side of the field quite a ways away from the game action, the team, the coaches, etc. So while the rest of the team was getting ready to run their play (or headed back onto the field) Richardson was too far away to be useful.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:42 PM   #125
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But at the time it occurred, I thought it was Steve Hoffman, the special teams coach that not only got pushed, but that pulled Richardson off the field.
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It was.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:44 PM   #126
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Can somebody that was at the game please back me up here? It was probably 20 yard line to 20 yard line that the coach ran after him. MAYBE 30 to 30.

Again, the TV broadcast did not show that series of events correctly. They showed a REPLAY of Barry pushing the coach but did not show the entire tantrum down the sideline and the coach running after him.

As for the exact reason they wound up pulling him back after having ran after him, maybe they thought it was too late, maybe they had decided they didn't want him in there in that state of mind, I don't know.

I say again, the point I'm really trying to push here, and I think anybody that was at the game can attest to this, is that the sideline was a mess at that moment. They looked confused, and many of the coaches and players were worried about Richardson instead of the big 4th down play that was coming up. All I've been trying to say is they should have called a timeout to settle things down rather than go out there and shit on themselves like they did.

I think of this way a little bit, too. Everybody around me in my section saw the same thing I did and were all focused more on Richardson than the actual 3rd and 4th down plays. So were many of the coaches and players. It was a messy sideline and it turned into a messy play at a big time. It all started because of a tantrum.
Not sure how far down the coaches were since I was looking across the field and was on the opposite 15, but Richardson was down quite a ways... at least the opposite 35 or 30.

It was a cluster****... hell, we were more interested with everything happening on the sidelines, and we were across the field.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:46 PM   #127
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Stuff happens, and no coach should feel like it's a good idea to touch a VERY angry player. I'm not sure that's ever going to end well. And with as pissed as he was, they moght have wanted to keep a 10 yard buffer.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:54 PM   #128
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BRich's motivation and desire were the biggest questions fir him coming into the NFL.

That emotion is a good thing.

And really, I'd get pissed too, especially when Moeaki's miscue was far more damaging and he wasn't pulled.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:55 PM   #129
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Not sure how far down the coaches were since I was looking across the field and was on the opposite 15, but Richardson was down quite a ways... at least the opposite 35 or 30.

It was a cluster****... hell, we were more interested with everything happening on the sidelines, and we were across the field.
EXACTLY the point I've been trying to make this whole time. You were, we were, lots of the players and coaches were...meanwhile we're about to run huge 3rd and 4th down plays.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:17 PM   #130
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Losing your cool in that situation helps how exactly? Explain it to me. Here's a clue. It doesn't.
JFC, you're a condescending prick, All-Star.

First off, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PULLED IN THE FIRST PLACE!

The Chiefs knew from the previous game that Richardson & Lilja had difficulty with Mario Haggans. Instead of game-planning for that, they didn't change a damn thing and in several cases, the double team with Richardson & Lilja didn't work.

He had a rough day. It happens. But the LAST thing the coaching staff should have done was pull Richardson and put in O'Failagain, who is notches below Richardson as a right tackle, especially against speed rushers.

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I haven't said one thing about the false start (or the two or three he had). It was the WHOLE game today, where he got beat in both the run and pass game by guys that are scrubs. The play where the guy got across his face to cause McCluster to fumble he made a second rate player look like Reggie White in his prime. That shit was beyond atrocious.
First off, NO ONE in the NFL is a "scrub". That's just nonsense. Secondly, Weis, Haley, Muir, et al should have learned from their previous game against Denver.

Once again, Richardson had a bad day. It happens. But one bad day doesn't erase eleven other games, and IIRC, the Chiefs won today.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:21 PM   #131
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I can't really make a judgement on this until I can see the playback where BRich was called for being offsides. He was major pissed at being pulled before the next play, and you just can't be slapping around your coaches on the sidelines. I think the coaches weren't taking it too personally, because BRich was right back in the game on the next offensive series. He did not have a very good game today, but we did have Charles go for over a hundred. That's a good day for the line in general. BRich needs more discipline in the red zone, especially later in the year when we're on the road.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:24 PM   #132
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I can't really make a judgement on this until I can see the playback where BRich was called for being offsides. He was major pissed at being pulled before the next play, and you just can't be slapping around your coaches on the sidelines. I think the coaches weren't taking it too personally, because BRich was right back in the game on the next offensive series. He did not have a very good game today, but we did have Charles go for over a hundred. That's a good day for the line in general. BRich needs more discipline in the red zone, especially later in the year when we're on the road.
Richardson shouldn't have been pulled, period.

If Richardson was pulled, Moeaki should have been pulled for not lining up on the LOS.

And Matt Cassel should have been pulled in September 2009.

It's a double standard and HURT the drive.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:30 PM   #133
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Dru is pretty much spot on with what happened.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:31 PM   #134
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:31 PM   #135
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Good god, the biggest knock on BRich coming out of college was about his lack of passion for football. Him being that pissed about being pulled from the game was f'ing a thing of beauty. The coaches should be proud of the passion they've gotten out of him but also hang their heads for making a dumbass move to pull him in the first place.
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