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Old 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM  
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Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick.
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Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:07 PM   #121
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How many Super Bowls have the Colts had in Peyton Manning's lifetime? How many Super Bowl's have the Chiefs had in Peyton Manning's lifetime?

I don't care how many picks it takes. When you are talking about not winning Super Bowls within a players LIFETIME, you're doing something wrong.
Have you ever read a story about the idiots who on a long losing streak in Vegas, decide to take out a second mortgage on their house and put it all up on one bet to try to reecoup all their losses?...

Man, they're some real morons aren't they?
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:23 PM   #122
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Have you ever read a story about the idiots who on a long losing streak in Vegas, decide to take out a second mortgage on their house and put it all up on one bet to try to reecoup all their losses?...

Man, they're some real morons aren't they?
Apparently, you haven't heard the story about the idiots who have a "system" that will beat the house. They follow their "system" over and over and over and over and over again and yet they wonder why, over time, they keep losing, they keep losing, they keep losing. Sure, every once in a while they have a mini-spike, but they never recoup their losses. They are simply dumbfounded as to why, on average, they only win 7 out of 16 games-- and they NEVER win the jackpot....

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Old 02-26-2012, 06:52 PM   #123
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Apparently, you haven't heard the story about the idiots who have a "system" that will beat the house. They follow their "system" over and over and over and over and over again and yet they wonder why, over time, they keep losing, they keep losing, they keep losing. Sure, every once in a while they have a mini-spike, but they never recoup their losses. They are simply dumbfounded as to why, on average, they only win 7 out of 16 games-- and they NEVER win the jackpot....
I get it, you're talking about the Chiefs. Slick.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:09 PM   #124
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Apparently, you haven't heard the story about the idiots who have a "system" that will beat the house. They follow their "system" over and over and over and over and over again and yet they wonder why, over time, they keep losing, they keep losing, they keep losing. Sure, every once in a while they have a mini-spike, but they never recoup their losses. They are simply dumbfounded as to why, on average, they only win 7 out of 16 games-- and they NEVER win the jackpot....
There are 5-6 players in the league right now who are "franchise QBs." When I say franchise, I mean a QB who can carry a mediocre team to the Super Bowl. Rodgers, Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Peyton (who is slipping out of that group). Arguably Eli, though it's debatable if he could do this without the very good Giants team that surrounds him. That's consistent with every generation. At most, you typically only have 5 who fall in that category.

Let's look at 1998-2010 (skipped the last 3 drafts, because they haven't had enough time to develop into franchise QBs yet). 32 first round QBs drafted during that time. If you count Eli, that means you have a 4 in 32 chance to draft a franchise QB with a first round pick (16% chance, for those counting).

Like I said, if you're monumentally lucky, you end up with a Peyton QB. Luck is probably that guy. If you do well, you end up with Matt Ryan. RGIII is probably more Ryan than he is Luck. If I'm Peyton Manning, sure, I don't care if we bring no young talent in the next 3 years. If I'm Matt Ryan, I need those next 3 drafts to put my team over the top. Betting on the 20% chance you get Peyton instead of building a team around the 80% chance you get Matt Ryan is a very, very bad calculated decision.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:09 PM   #125
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Apparently, you haven't heard the story about the idiots who have a "system" that will beat the house. They follow their "system" over and over and over and over and over again and yet they wonder why, over time, they keep losing, they keep losing, they keep losing. Sure, every once in a while they have a mini-spike, but they never recoup their losses. They are simply dumbfounded as to why, on average, they only win 7 out of 16 games-- and they NEVER win the jackpot....
Apparently you never heard of building a fortune through hard work rather than moving to Vegas, and think the only "winners" in the world bought a lottery ticket to get to where they are...
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:49 PM   #126
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This Vegas analogy is ****ing reeruned. Who started it anyway?

Ohh... mikey. Makes sense now.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:13 PM   #127
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As bad as this team needs a franchise QB, theres no way you can justify blowing an entire draft and part of another on just one player.

He could turn out to be another Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, or he could be a great player and get repeatedly injured ala Matt Stafford.

Not all of your greats come just in the first round. Sacrificing the ability to draft guys and solidify your team to take a roll of the dice on one guy is just not something any team serious about winning can take.

Theres always the chance the guy could be worth it, but the risk youre taking if youre wrong is just too big to recover from.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:17 PM   #128
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As bad as this team needs a franchise QB, theres no way you can justify blowing an entire draft and part of another on just one player.

He could turn out to be another Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, or he could be a great player and get repeatedly injured ala Matt Stafford.

Not all of your greats come just in the first round. Sacrificing the ability to draft guys and solidify your team to take a roll of the dice on one guy is just not something any team serious about winning can take.

Theres always the chance the guy could be worth it, but the risk youre taking if youre wrong is just too big to recover from.
Meh. I look at it like one elite QB can make an average team a Super Bowl team. Look back at the 09 draft we got two contributing players from tht draft and one was a kicker. We have the cap space to make up for the loss of some picks
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:22 PM   #129
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Apparently you never heard of building a fortune through hard work rather than moving to Vegas, and think the only "winners" in the world bought a lottery ticket to get to where they are...
You're the dope who started the Vegas analogy, not me. Don't blame me when it blows back up in your face. What does "hard work" have to do with the draft anyway? Every single player in the draft carries risk, from the #1 pick to Mr. Irrelevent. You make it sound like every single draft pick that KC has used in the past NINETEEN years has been a solid pick.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:33 PM   #130
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I think the Redskins are gonna make the necessary moves to get him and we won't be able to top it, nor will we try.
11 vs 5. Stupid argument.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:35 PM   #131
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About the only scenario we should or could trade up is if the Browns sign Matt Flynn and RGIII is available at 5. We could move up past the Skins to try and get him.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:41 PM   #132
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Or we could just draft the franchise QB who falls down the first since they tend to be better than the ones drafted high.
Who's gonna fall sport???
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #133
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Who's gonna fall sport???
I agree, there's no need to kill ourselves trying to move up.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:55 PM   #135
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Who's gonna fall sport???
Probably no one this year. But seems like every year someone is supposed to go one and two overall, the second one lasts a bit longer.

In which case it would be easier to trade up, but unless that happens there's no way we should go up to two.
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