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[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Very simplistic thinking, although I agree with your comment on Cassel.

What part of what I have said is false?

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by tredadda

What part of what I have said is false?

I didn't say false, I said simplistic. Peyton has struggled against the Chargers and the Pats in the playoffs. To say Peyton calls audibles and Eli just wins discounts every other variable associated to the game of football.
Simplistic...

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I didn't say false, I said simplistic. Peyton has struggled against the Chargers and the Pats in the playoffs. To say Peyton calls audibles and Eli just wins discounts every other variable associated to the game of football.
Simplistic...

That's it! When Peyton loses it is because of someone else and when Eli wins it is the same thing. Question, is Eli better that Rivers?

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by tredadda

To those who somehow think Eli is overrated some things to keep in mind.

While Peyton slings the ball all over the field and throws for a S@#t ton of TDs and calls a ton of audibles every play, all Eli does is win FREAKING SB rings. And he does it against the guy or guys (Brady and Belechick) that Peyton seemed to struggle against in big games.

Eli is easily Top 3-5 and Cassel is easily bottom five.

Ah, thank you, tredadda.

I promise to have more strength tomorrow to go head to head with anybody that thinks Eli is not all that. And, personally, I would not change him for any other quarterback in NFL.

I would rank Eli in one of the top 3 positions - where in the top three - I'll get back to you with the answer.

[BigMeatballDave]

Obviously bitter Dolt fan is obviously bitter

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Dave

Obviously bitter Dolt fan is obviously bitter

Dave, are you capable of explaining yor love of Eli in full English sentences? Your defense of his honor is suspect without valid data.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Dave, are you capable of explaining yor love of Eli in full English sentences? Your defense of his honor is suspect without valid data.

I've given my opinion.

I'm sorry you're a ****ing moron.

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Dave

I've given my opinion.

I'm sorry you're a ****ing moron.

That's the only opinion you've given so far.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

That's the only opinion you've given so far.

So a QB who throws for nearly 5000 yards with a shitty running game is overrated?

He has 2 rings and has been nothing but clutch in the post-season.

[BigMeatballDave]

He's thrown for more yards than Rivers.

[Gadzooks]

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.
You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.
You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

Not talking about the year they were drafted. I am talking about right now. Try again. You are the GM of the Chaga's and you can get either Eli or Rivers who do you draft? Why?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.
You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

Also didn't Rivers FAIL to make the playoffs a couple of years ago coming out of the mediocre AFC West with the #1 offense AND #1 rated DEFENSE?

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.
You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

Rivers could help his own chances by not turning the ball over in every playoff game he's ever played in.

His regular season stats contrast greatly with his playoff numbers, and not in the same way that Eli's regular season/post season numbers contrast.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

Right there - End of story - Knowmo takes Phil "Choke" Rivers over Eli Manning. Rivers is "Peyton Lite" - Phillip had his chances - And he choked!

There is no helping this guy - full stop.

Here you go:
This is Ernie Acorsi’s 2003 scouting report to the Mara family on why the NY Giants should reach out for Eli Manning. Incredibly accurate insights. - Bless his little heart

Subject: Arcorsi’s note to Mara from Ole Miss from 2003:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02...Big+Picture%29