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Aaron Rodgers - Green Bay Packers 193 91.90%
Andrew Luck - Indianapolis Colts 178 84.76%
Andy Dalton - Cincinnati Bengals 49 23.33%
Ben Roethlisberger - Pittsburgh Steelers 138 65.71%
Brian Hoyer - Cleveland Browns 5 2.38%
Cam Newton - Carolina Panthers 108 51.43%
Carson Palmer - Arizona Cardinals 23 10.95%
Chad Henne - Jacksonville Jaguars 8 3.81%
Colin Kaepernick - San Francisco 49ers 86 40.95%
Derek Carr - Oakland Raiders 15 7.14%
Drew Brees - New Orleans Saints 187 89.05%
EJ Manuel - Buffalo Bills 13 6.19%
Eli Manning - New York Giants 87 41.43%
Geno Smith - New York Jets 25 11.90%
Jay Cutler - Chicago Bears 71 33.81%
Joe Flacco - Baltimore Ravens 89 42.38%
Matt Cassel - Minnesota Vikings 9 4.29%
Matt Ryan - Atlanta Falcons 115 54.76%
Matthew Stafford - Detroit Lions 104 49.52%
Mike Glennon - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 4.76%
Nick Foles - Philadelphia Eagles 78 37.14%
Peyton Manning - Denver Broncos 185 88.10%
Philip Rivers - San Diego Chargers 156 74.29%
Robert Griffin III - Washington Redskins 59 28.10%
Russell Wilson - Seattle Seahawks 147 70.00%
Ryan Fitzpatrick - Houston Texans 7 3.33%
Jake Locker - Tennessee Titans 11 5.24%
Ryan Tannehill - Miami Dolphins 22 10.48%
Shaun Hill - St. Louis Rams 7 3.33%
Tom Brady - New England Patriots 190 90.48%
Tony Romo - Dallas Cowboys 95 45.24%
All of them 11 5.24%
None of them 9 4.29%
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:06 PM  
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:43 PM   #121
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I'm with people on most of the popular choices, but the popular QBs whom I do not think are better than Alex are:

Jay Cutler (too inconsistent)

Nick Foles (too early to know - lets see his next 2 years)

RGIII (Elite potential. He will get there but his development has slowed)

Tony Romo (too inconsistent)
The irony of calling someone like Romo too inconsistent when comparing him to Smith.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:47 PM   #122
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Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers. Then there are 15 to 20 guys who are all about the same but with different warts. Smith is part of that group. I think Andrew Luck has potential to be part of those first four, but it's still early.
Pretty much this

E Manning, Big Ben and Flacco are tough to classify


Truly elite or just guys who got hot and streaky at the right times ?
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:47 PM   #123
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Stafford.

Anyone who can sit there and say OH YES I WOULD KEEP ALEX IF THE LIONS OFFERED US A SWAP OF QBS is lying through their teeth.
So the guy who puts up meaningless stat lines like number of wins when the defense gives up 24 points is willing to take a guy who is around 1-23 against teams with a winning record?

Then you will say well its not his fault which is an argument you dismiss when discussing Alex.

You dont understand how this works.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:47 PM   #124
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Stafford has carried that team in Detroit. When you ask a QB to throw 750 goddamn times in one year he is under an intense amount of pressure.

If we asked Alex to do that he'd just get hurt most likely.

Stafford's a ****ing God King.
The year he threw the ball 727 times he only threw 20 TD passes vs. 17 Ints. He's also completed 60% of his passes exactly one season in his entire career. That is not very God King like.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:48 PM   #125
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Alex Smith is currently #3 in Win% over the past three NFL seasons. I think he's as good as anybody if you want to win just one game. Numbers back that up.







Brees is 35. Manning is 38. Brady is 37. Rivers is a petulant crybaby who can't carry a team. Cutler, Stafford and Romo are just as likely to throw you out of a game than win it for you and have a total of two career playoff wins between them. Kaepernick and Wilson were downright horrible in passing the ball last season.



Newton and Luck are the only two guys I'd take over Smith right here, right now in terms of giving a QB a big money, four year deal.

Dude. According to this response, Alex Smith is a top 7 QB.

Seriously. Do you think there's one person employed by any NFL team that would agree with that assessment? His own damn contract doesn't even ****ing agree with that.

.. And I'd absolutely sign Peyton ****ing Manning to a 4 year deal worth $68. I'd give him all $68 of it guaranteed even if he decided to hang 'em up after this season. With him, we'd be instant AFC Champion favorites. Same with Brady and Brees as well.

Romo is better than Alex. I'm not even going to waste time arguing it.

I'll give you Cutler, Flacco and Stafford. Cutler and Flacco are iffy and if you'll note I didn't actually pick Stafford for one game. I picked him if I were to sign a long term contract because he's young and could possibly be fixed.

Kaepernick wasn't good passing but he's pretty electric and Wilson was actually extremely efficient passing the ball last season (he was more efficient than Alex). They both also fall under the "young and can be molded" umbrella.
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You dont understand how this works.
Neither do you. You think trading a guy with a noodle arm for a young pup who is a rare ****ing talent is a bad idea.

Chiefs fans have no clue. They think work ethic and character mean more than top end talent. It doesn't. It hasn't for 20 goddamn years. That should be obvious now but......
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:52 PM   #127
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Pretty meaningless stat I guess since guys who subjectively are better than Smith suck at it too
This applies here just as much here as on the other thread I posted it to.

The 24 point barrier is not a meaningless number picked at random.

The 2013 season was the highest scoring season in NFL history. Take a look at the average points per game for professional teams (including the AAFC and AFL) since 1940:




http://www.footballperspective.com/s...on-since-1940/



Champions have to be able to score more than 25 points by and large, to navigate the playoffs and win it all. There are exceptions to the rule, but by and large, if you are 1 for 35 when opponents score at least 24 points, your playoff run will be brief. By and large. Don't go all 2000 Ravens on me.



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Neither do you. You think trading a guy with a noodle arm for a young pup who is a rare ****ing talent is a bad idea.

Chiefs fans have no clue. They think work ethic and character mean more than top end talent. It doesn't. It hasn't for 20 goddamn years. That should be obvious now but......
No Clay YOU dont get it.

Luck is a rare talent because he has physical and mental ability.

Stafford hasn't won shit in 4 years because he has physical talent but not mental talent.

Smith is the other side, he has the brains but not as much physical talent.

To try to draw some huge gap between them shows your ignorance.

If Stafford had Smith's brain he would be Arron Rodgers. but he doesn't so he is closer to Jeff George.
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This applies here just as much as on the other thread I posted it to.

The 24 point barrier is not a meaningless number picked at random.

The 2013 season was the highest scoring season in NFL history. Take a look at the average points per game for professional teams (including the AAFC and AFL) since 1940:




http://www.footballperspective.com/s...on-since-1940/



Champions have to be able to score more than 25 points by and large, to navigate the playoffs and win it all. There are exceptions to the rule, but by and large, if you are 1 for 35 when opponents score at least 24 points, your playoff run will be brief. By and large. Don't go all 2000 Ravens on me.



http://juxoneb.xlx.pl/highest-nfl-sc...ingle-team.php

The Chiefs as a team scored more than 25 per game last year. I also showed in another thread where we gave up 34 points per game in our losses last year. Go away with your stupid shit.
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1-23 Clay, 1-23. That's almost as bad as Croyle's win %.
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I can't believe there are some who think Alex Smith is better than Big Ben
absolute insanity
Whoever said people don't watch teams other than KC is right

Tony Romo gets a lot of shit but he is so underrated its silly
His back is jacked up due to him having to carry that team for so long
Yes he has good weapons, but his defense is so bad that there is so much pressure on him and the offense to keep that team in games

The exact opposite of Smith's situation
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Dude. According to this response, Alex Smith is a top 7 QB.

Seriously. Do you think there's one person employed by any NFL team that would agree with that assessment? His own damn contract doesn't even ****ing agree with that.

.. And I'd absolutely sign Peyton ****ing Manning to a 4 year deal worth $68. I'd give him all $68 of it guaranteed even if he decided to hang 'em up after this season. With him, we'd be instant AFC Champion favorites. Same with Brady and Brees as well.

Romo is better than Alex. I'm not even going to waste time arguing it.

I'll give you Cutler, Flacco and Stafford. Cutler and Flacco are iffy and if you'll note I didn't actually pick Stafford for one game. I picked him if I were to sign a long term contract because he's young and could possibly be fixed.

Kaepernick wasn't good passing but he's pretty electric and Wilson was actually extremely efficient passing the ball last season (he was more efficient than Alex). They both also fall under the "young and can be molded" umbrella.
Romo ****ing sucks, Jones gave that mfer everything a QB a could ever want and he didnt do SHIT with it.
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Romo ****ing sucks, Jones gave that mfer everything a QB a could ever want and he didnt do SHIT with it.


The shit people give Romo is a constant source of amusement.

Alex would have that Cowboys team in the cellar every year. Everyone knows bad defense + Alex = top 5 pick.

Maybe that is Reid's plan all along! We will be laden with top 5 picks over the next four years.
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No Clay YOU dont get it.

Luck is a rare talent because he has physical and mental ability.

Stafford hasn't won shit in 4 years because he has physical talent but not mental talent.

Smith is the other side, he has the brains but not as much physical talent.

To try to draw some huge gap between them shows your ignorance.

If Stafford had Smith's brain he would be Arron Rodgers. but he doesn't so he is closer to Jeff George.
If Matt Stafford had gone to the Patriots or Packers and was groomed by Bellicheck or Mike McCarthy, he would be Aaron Rodgers.

Matt Stafford's biggest problem is that he plays for a team owned by William Clay Ford Sr. -- easily the NFL's worst owner. His other big problem is that he has one of the worst head coaches in football, and Ford's loyalty to Schwarts is continuing that problem.

If Hunt is a lousy owner, Ford is abysmal and gives his team NO chance for success.

Stafford has NEVER had the development in Detroit that he needed to excel. Never. Stafford's biggest problem is inadequate QB development. It is amazing what he has done with natural talent alone with that despicable development.
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Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers. Then there are 15 to 20 guys who are all about the same but with different warts. Smith is part of that group. I think Andrew Luck has potential to be part of those first four, but it's still early.
This post really does sum things up perfectly. This is why there is so many differing opinions of specific QB rankings. Once you get beyond the 4 clear QBs at the top.. the next bunch is large and muddled. It is fun to watch the bickering and spin-jobs over these 2nd tier options.
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