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Old 04-03-2015, 10:39 AM   #1
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PJ Williams was a fringe 1st rounder to begin with. I bet he could fall to round 3 with this incident. A steal if we could get him there.
Shit, take him in the second. Don't even gamble if he'll be there in the third.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:45 AM   #2
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:53 AM   #3
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Meh, I'm sure you can find hall of fame guards that were early picks too.

The Chiefs problem is thag they e sucked at drafting. No matter what position, they've sucked
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:55 AM   #4
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Meh, I'm sure you can find hall of fame guards that were early picks too.

The Chiefs problem is thag they e sucked at drafting. No matter what position, they've sucked
Then by all means, let's keep throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks, and then next season we can all sit around saying we should have taken (name playmaking position here).

There are a glut of playmakers to be had in the first round this year. I will not be happy if we take a guard/center/d-tackle guy/3-4 end guy.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:04 AM   #5
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Meh, I'm sure you can find hall of fame guards that were early picks too.

The Chiefs problem is thag they e sucked at drafting. No matter what position, they've sucked
I'm sure you can as well.

Again, I believe it is MUCH easier to find a fatty that can start for your organization in the late rounds than it is to find a playmaker/difference maker late.

You have to go back to 2008 for the last difference maker we've drafted in the 4th or later. (Carr)

In that same time period, we've used NINE picks on OL/DL in the first three rounds.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:07 AM   #6
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I believe it is MUCH easier to find a fatty that can start for your organization in the late rounds than it is to find a playmaker/difference maker late.
Makes a ton of sense, I'd have to agree.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:15 AM   #7
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I'm sure you can as well.

Again, I believe it is MUCH easier to find a fatty that can start for your organization in the late rounds than it is to find a playmaker/difference maker late.

You have to go back to 2008 for the last difference maker we've drafted in the 4th or later. (Carr)

In that same time period, we've used NINE picks on OL/DL in the first three rounds.
I'm not disagreeing with that premise, but the chiefs problem again, hasn't been position picked as much as just taking poor players, and moreso, having a shitty organization to develop them after they've been pIcked.

I think that's the bigger issue, in that between marty and andy, there wasnt much development of said players once picked.

I believe that's changed with this regime in that they have a good staff in place to develop players. Now they need to keep acquiring talent. Position wise I don't really get to hung up on, but I wouldn't be too excited about a first round center, that's for sure, but I wouldn't reach for a wr or whatever just because he plays a premium position.
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:41 AM   #8
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I'm sure you can as well.

Again, I believe it is MUCH easier to find a fatty that can start for your organization in the late rounds than it is to find a playmaker/difference maker late.

You have to go back to 2008 for the last difference maker we've drafted in the 4th or later. (Carr)

In that same time period, we've used NINE picks on OL/DL in the first three rounds.
I am not necessarily advocating drafting a lineman in the 1st round, but I am strongly advocating investing a pick or 2 in the first 4 rounds (5 picks).

Building for the future is fine, and exactly what I would have been doing from the moment I took the reins of this franchise if I were Dorsey.

But he appears to be building for this year, and all the weapons at Smith's disposal are worthless unless you provide him with the best protection possible.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:00 AM   #9
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:01 AM   #10
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I think the 3rd round is a great area to draft an OL. Get your playmakers early this year and then fill that hole later.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:03 AM   #11
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:07 PM   #12
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Centers taken in the 1st round since 2001

2014 - None
2013 - Travis Frederick
2012 - None
2011 - Mike Pouncey
2010 - Maurkice Pouncey
2009 - Alex Mack
2008 - None
2007 - None
2006 - Nick Mangold
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2001 - None
Chiefs should have taken Alex Mack in 2009. I wanted Alex Mack as our pick in 2009.
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:15 PM   #13
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Chiefs should have taken Alex Mack in 2009. I wanted Alex Mack as our pick in 2009.
At #3?
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:19 PM   #14
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At #3?
Yep.

****ing mind blowing, isn't it?
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Yep.

****ing mind blowing, isn't it?
Could you imagine this board if we took a center at #3?
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