Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow

[RunKC]

7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

Beast

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by O.city

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

Well, people will just come and say, well their offensive line wasnt good. Well, guess what? The's supposed to dominate lesser olines and struggle against good oline's. Thats why the NFL pays LT's insane money, because its hard to get passed them. IF it wasnt, regardless of who was the pass rusher, they wouldnt make so much damned money (LT's).

[The Franchise]

Been a fan of his since he was drafted. I'll eat crow in the fact that I thought he would have done this sooner. Good to see him finally step it up though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively, held the Saints to their second lowest point total and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Well, people will just come and say, well their offensive line wasnt good. Well, guess what? The's supposed to dominate lesser olines and struggle against good oline's. Thats why the NFL pays LT's insane money, because its hard to get passed them. IF it wasnt, regardless of who was the pass rusher, they wouldnt make so much damned money (LT's).

No, no no.

Sacks only count when they come against good pass rushers. Because Von Miller gets all his sacks against Tyron Smith and Joe Thomas.

Offenses are run right now in a way where credible tackles just don't give up many sacks. Fisher's only given up 1 or 2 this year, right? And he's merely good; but no means great.

Good players get fat against bad players and hold their own against other good players. That's what we've seen from Ford this year. The other guy gets paid to play as well. The league is pro-offense so to act like a defensive player should be beating up on similarly talented offensive players is just ignoring the way the league has trended of late.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

Kicked dog syndrome.

Though there does remain real room for conversation at QB. Sure, the offense looked better yesterday but it tended to look its best with Foles under center. Now, for the good plays Foles made downfield, he missed on some short passes that Smith wouldn't have and it impacted the scoreboard. But there's a real discussion as to whether that improvement downfield more than offset the losses short and the lost mobility (though Smith's not looking as spry these days either).

Man it would've been nice had that game happened just like that with Smith in charge. And really, it might have - Smith went deep twice in his first 3 attempts, correct? There was clearly a commitment to the deep ball. And neither throw to Hill was amazing - the first was a badly underthrown ball that Hill did a nice job adjusting and shielding the DB and the second was just badly blown coverage for an easy pitch and catch. They weren't exactly signs of a sustainable downfield model.

There are still unanswered questions on offense.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively, held the Saints to their second lowest point total and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

5/7 Chiefs opponents are top 12 in scoring offense. The Chiefs are currently 8th in points allowed after playing all those teams without their best player.

[Bowser]

We can sit and debate Smith vs. Foles, but credit where it is due - that TD pass to Maclin was a thing of beauty, and I'm really not sure he makes that throw the last couple of years. Alex has improved this season with his downfield accuracy, like it or not. Doesn't mean he has "arrived" as an All-Pro weapon, but the improvements are plain to see in 2016.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Bowser

We can sit and debate Smith vs. Foles, but credit where it is due - that TD pass to Maclin was a thing of beauty, and I'm really not sure he makes that throw the last couple of years. Alex has improved this season with his downfield accuracy, like it or not. Doesn't mean he has "arrived" as an All-Pro weapon, but the improvements are plain to see in 2016.

Weird thread for this post, but that throw to Maclin was picture perfect.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Weird thread for this post, but that throw to Maclin was picture perfect.

The throw before it was even better. That thing was dropped right into the 1 foot by 1 foot box it needed to be in and Maclin, for whatever reason, felt like 1 hand was the way to go. The ball should've been caught.

Maclin's not been right this year. He hasn't been right since his buddy died. It's just been a really weird year for him.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The throw before it was even better. That thing was dropped right into the 1 foot by 1 foot box it needed to be in and Maclin, for whatever reason, felt like 1 hand was the way to go. The ball should've been caught.

Maclin's not been right this year. He hasn't been right since his buddy died. It's just been a really weird year for him.

I forgot about that. He really threaded a needle on that throw, and Maclin just ****ed it off. You're right about him being ****ed up since his buddy died as well. He's just not himself out there right now.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Weird thread for this post, but that throw to Maclin was picture perfect.

It was a quasi-reply to DJ's Nutsack.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The throw before it was even better. That thing was dropped right into the 1 foot by 1 foot box it needed to be in and Maclin, for whatever reason, felt like 1 hand was the way to go. The ball should've been caught.

Maclin's not been right this year. He hasn't been right since his buddy died. It's just been a really weird year for him.

He had 3 catches off of 10 targets yesterday, very much under what he normally produces. And you're right - he doesn't look anything like himself this year. No explosion off the line or out of cuts. Hopefully he gets out of his funk soon.

[Bowser]

And yeah, that one handed attempt at a catch in the endzone was ****ery. Maclin knows better than that.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Bowser

It was a quasi-reply to DJ's Nutsack.



He had 3 catches off of 10 targets yesterday, very much under what he normally produces. And you're right - he doesn't look anything like himself this year. No explosion off the line or out of cuts. Hopefully he gets out of his funk soon.

Mah bad. He seems like a genuinely good kid. I mean obviously I want him at maximum performance for the Chiefs, but JMac is someone I genuinely like from what I know of him as a person. I hope he gets his mind right for him. Losing peers at his age is a ****ed up thing to go through. We've all been there.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kicked dog syndrome.

Though there does remain real room for conversation at QB. Sure, the offense looked better yesterday but it tended to look its best with Foles under center. Now, for the good plays Foles made downfield, he missed on some short passes that Smith wouldn't have and it impacted the scoreboard. But there's a real discussion as to whether that improvement downfield more than offset the losses short and the lost mobility (though Smith's not looking as spry these days either).

Man it would've been nice had that game happened just like that with Smith in charge. And really, it might have - Smith went deep twice in his first 3 attempts, correct? There was clearly a commitment to the deep ball. And neither throw to Hill was amazing - the first was a badly underthrown ball that Hill did a nice job adjusting and shielding the DB and the second was just badly blown coverage for an easy pitch and catch. They weren't exactly signs of a sustainable downfield model.

There are still unanswered questions on offense.

Foles hit passes that Smith likely wouldn't have and vice versa. But Smith was on fire before the first blow to the head and looked like he was going to have his best game of the year.

I don't see how they don't pick up Foles option next year, regardless of the $10 million dollar cap charge (which can be renegotiated, of course). I don't know if he can truly become a Franchise QB but Smith has taken a lot of hits this year, which tend to compound over the course of a season or two.

If Foles can't be a Franchise QB, he'd make a helluva transition QB.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

He definitely prefers the right sideline for the "bucket" throws.